Well this sucks

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

So recently I decided that my old compy needed some updating. I get all the parts needed and get everything setup and.... the motherboard won't start. At all. The led backlights came on but nothing else happened, no bios beeps, just a whole lot of nothing. I'm beginning to think that it might be a case of it being DOA. There doesn't seem to be anything wrong but it's just not working.


I've tried everything possible right down to doing a test with the motherboard outside the case with only the 8-pin 12V and the 24-pin connector but nothing works. One person on the ASRock forum suggested moving the jumper for the clear CMOS except that this motherboard doesn't seem to have that. It's got two clear CMOS buttons but not what they are talking about.



Build Specs
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Ti
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X

RAM: HyperX Fury 16GB
MOBO: ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate

[BarracudaUAK]

Originally Posted by Kptlt. Neuerburg

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Build Specs
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Ti
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X

RAM: HyperX Fury 16GB
MOBO: ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate

Was the CPU in the socket?
Some Ryzen motherboards need a bios update to boot newer Ryzen chips.
Most newer motherboards should have it, but this one may have slipped through the cracks.
Or it's one of the first boards, and was built before the bios update was released.


You might check the revision # on the board, and search the net for which bios version it has.


NOTE: Some boards were made to be able to boot to update firmware -WITHOUT- a CPU.
You might check if ASRock is one that can do this, I don't remember all of the boards that could.

Hopefully it's not DOA.



Barracuda

[Reece]

So recently I decided that my old compy needed some updating

Is there any of the ol the old parts still being used? Is it a new mobo?
If it's the old mobo then try removing all the cards and use the old ones to see if it runs. If it is a new mobo the I would say an update is not the correct term!!
Is the power supply new or old?
If you have access to a multimeter I would check the voltages at the pins on the mobo, turn it upside down and check at the solder joints, this would at least check if power is getting to the mobo. Any burn smells?

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

Originally Posted by BarracudaUAK

Was the CPU in the socket?
Some Ryzen motherboards need a bios update to boot newer Ryzen chips.
Most newer motherboards should have it, but this one may have slipped through the cracks.
Or it's one of the first boards, and was built before the bios update was released.


You might check the revision # on the board, and search the net for which bios version it has.


NOTE: Some boards were made to be able to boot to update firmware -WITHOUT- a CPU.
You might check if ASRock is one that can do this, I don't remember all of the boards that could.

Hopefully it's not DOA.



Barracuda

Confirm the CPU was in the socket. I know the bios version is P1.50 which is what came with the motherboard. Only problem is it's not starting.

Originally Posted by Reece

Is there any of the ol the old parts still being used? Is it a new mobo?
If it's the old mobo then try removing all the cards and use the old ones to see if it runs. If it is a new mobo the I would say an update is not the correct term!!
Is the power supply new or old?
If you have access to a multimeter I would check the voltages at the pins on the mobo, turn it upside down and check at the solder joints, this would at least check if power is getting to the mobo. Any burn smells?

The only old parts that are being used is really just the hard drives, although two out of the four I have are over 5+ years and the power supply is 11 years old but still going strong. Negative on any burning smells.



Here's a basic rundown of what I did when I tested the motherboard outside of the case. This was done with ONLY the CPU connected to the motherboard.



Step 1: Shut off power to the PSU and disconnect the power cord.
Step 2: Place the motherboard on a clean surface.
Step 3: Connect the 8 pin 12V cable into it's slot and is well seated.
Step 4: Connect the 24 pin power cable into it's slot.
Step 5: Connect the speaker to it's place on the motherboard in order to hear any bios beep codes.
Step 6: Reconnect the power cord to the PSU and turn it on.



When the PSU is turned on the led lights on the motherboard do come on and will turn off when it PSU is off. But when I press the power button on the motherboard nothing happens. Even if the PSU was under powered and the motherboard worked correctly I would have gotten the beep code telling me so.


Think about it this way, you get in your car and it's got full gas, oil, water and a fully charged battery you go to start it up and the darn thing won't start, there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with but no matter what you do it just won't start... That's kind of the situation I'm in now except it's a computer not a car.

[BarracudaUAK]

Originally Posted by Kptlt. Neuerburg

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But when I press the power button on the motherboard nothing happens.
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Is the power button bad?
I've had several cases (old and new), where the power button would go bad.
Since they don't need to be held for a long time, I've used a reset button for that.

Barracuda

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

Originally Posted by BarracudaUAK

Is the power button bad?
I've had several cases (old and new), where the power button would go bad.
Since they don't need to be held for a long time, I've used a reset button for that.

Barracuda

It's possible that the button is bad or there could be a short somewhere which I think is what's happening. I'm going to be picking up a multimeter today so I'll see what happens. I've often wondered if the manufacturers test their boards at the factory to see if they are working properly before shipping them to the buyer(s)?


Edit: I got the multimeter but I've never done this sort of test before. Could someone give me some pointers as to how I'm supposed to do this?