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Old 09-08-2018, 11:20 AM   #1
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I got this USB stick and every time I plug it in I get the message your USB has problems and needs to be scanned and fixed. And ever time the result comes back no problems found. So where is the flipping problem when there is no problem!


Granted this is not what I call serious but a pain in the rear end. Just wondering why am I being told you have a problem when there is none. All other USB sticks never get this.
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Old 09-08-2018, 11:42 AM   #2
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I had a similar problem with one of my older usb thumb drives and I reformatted.

here is the link where I found how to re-format the drive:
https://www.maketecheasier.com/forma...es-windows-10/

I not sure if it will help your situation.
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Old 09-08-2018, 06:39 PM   #3
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Yes I had the same problem before with a USB stick I purchased from China, I reformatted it and was ok then.
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This can sometimes be caused by not "ejecting" the stick before removing it from the computer. Probably best to wait for the "device can safely be removed" message.
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Seen it myself, have been there. Reformatting did not solve it. On the other hand, the stick until today works reliable. It is a Transcend Jetflash.


Don't worry, and make it a habit to replace a USB stick after 5-6 years anyway. I just have lost one that was a backup storage and has not been touched since 4 years. Also, a Transcend Jetflash. I mean, this is a trusted model. I have many of them with 32 and 16 GB.


For important longtime storage,a HD is better than a stick anyway. Even if the electronics break, specialists could maybe save data from it in their lab. From a broken stick you can save nothing.
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Trouble is losing 16Gb of data on one of dozens of sticks isn't so bad but losing a 1Tb drive for example would be a disaster!!
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This can sometimes be caused by not "ejecting" the stick before removing it from the computer. Probably best to wait for the "device can safely be removed" message.
Yes I agree with Nathaniel; I've usually only experienced this after not going through the "Safely remove" process with a stick
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So where is the flipping problem when there is no problem!
Depends on how you disconnect your USB stick, do you just remove it? or do you ''Eject'' it first by clicking the icon on the bottom right and wait for the ''safe to remove drive'' message like this:


The scan usually kicks in when the stick or drive suddenly has been removed without beeing ejected first and makes sure the drive is ok.
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I just disconnect all my USB sticks. This one is the only one which is the pain, never had this problem with my others.



BTW I use Win8.1
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So you just pull them out of your computer without ''ejecting'' them first through windows?

If that's the case then that's the cause, USB drives (Sticks or External Hard drives) don't like to be disconnected like that.
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So you just pull them out of your computer without ''ejecting'' them first through windows?

If that's the case then that's the cause, USB drives (Sticks or External Hard drives) don't like to be disconnected like that.
I think this is often as a result of over complacency and forgetting the basics.
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So you just pull them out of your computer without ''ejecting'' them first through windows?

If that's the case then that's the cause, USB drives (Sticks or External Hard drives) don't like to be disconnected like that.

No go tried the "ejecting" and still i get the issue.


Just wondering any how don't worry about it. I just ignore the message now.
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To be clear: if the stick has ever been removed without "ejecting" it, you will probably always get an error until it is reformatted or repaired. IOW, the act of ejecting it alone will not fix the problem.


What has worked for me in the past is either one of two options:
  1. Using a built-in Windows utility to repair the stick. (Can't remember how I got to it, but I think it was offered as an option when Windows detected that there was an error with the stick.)
  2. Transferring all of the data off of the stick, reformatting it, then moving all of the data back on to it.
I think what is happening is that when a stick is removed without ejecting it first, your computer might still be in the middle of writing to the stick, even if you are not actively transferring files. Apparently, Windows will sometimes wait to finish writing data to a drive until it feels like it. This is called "write caching" and it means that sometimes, if you remove a stick without telling Windows you are going to do so, the OS will not have finished writing to it. Hilarity ensues.


When you eject a stick, you are telling the OS to go ahead and finish everything it was doing so that nothing will be corrupted. This is the only way to be sure that it is indeed "safe to remove the device".
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I think this is often as a result of over complacency and forgetting the basics.
You don't easily forget the basics when you deal with 500gb, 1.5tb and 2tb external drives

Especially after one incident I yanked out the 1.5tb drive which is pretty packed when instead of the drive I ejected the wrong device. The drive wasn't doing anything at that moment but when I plugged it back in Windows told I needed to format H: before I could use it lucky after I ran the chkdsk /f command through the command prompt it worked again with all files intact.
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You don't easily forget the basics when you deal with 500gb, 1.5tb and 2tb external drives

Especially after one incident I yanked out the 1.5tb drive which is pretty packed when instead of the drive I ejected the wrong device. The drive wasn't doing anything at that moment but when I plugged it back in Windows told I needed to format H: before I could use it lucky after I ran the chkdsk /f command through the command prompt it worked again with all files intact.
That's called 'learning from ones mistakes'
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