US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by August

What you mean like when the Democrats refused to allow the Republicans to call any witnesses during the Impeachment hearings? You mean that kind of farce?

If you mean the last impeachment you had in 1999 against Clinton, then I have to say I did not have Internet(did not own a computer) did not have CNN or other international news channel then only Danish and Swedish.

It was very little info I got about that impeachment then.

Today it's different and I do follow this Impeachment against Trump as closely I can.

I must say it is serious accusation the Dem are presenting in their case.

So many thoughts are going around inside my head.

Do they have something to have it in....all those accusation ?
Have they cherry picked what they need to convince some of the Rep ?

It's so to say unfair not to hear both side, so It's going to be interesting to what the defense have to say.

Markus

[u crank]

Originally Posted by mapuc

If you mean the last impeachment you had in 1999 against Clinton, ....

I'm pretty sure Markus that August is referring to Trump's impeachment and specifically to the House impeachment inquiries led by Adam Schiff and Jerrold Nadler.

[August]

Originally Posted by u crank

I'm pretty sure Markus that August is referring to Trump's impeachment and specifically to the House impeachment inquiries led by Adam Schiff and Jerrold Nadler.

Exactly. It is rank hypocrisy for the Democrats to hold what amounted to a kangaroo court in the House then go to the Senate and complain about fairness. They made this impeachment bed and I hope the Turtle sends them to it without their conviction supper.

Then we can get on to the next manufactured scandal. You know they have at least one more of these up their sleeve.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by August

Exactly. It is rank hypocrisy for the Democrats to hold what amounted to a kangaroo court in the House then go to the Senate and complain about fairness. They made this impeachment bed and I hope the Turtle sends them to it without their conviction supper.

Then we can get on to the next manufactured scandal. You know they have at least one more of these up their sleeve.

I must have missed that.. Then they should not point fingers at Rep in the Senate.

Markus

[Onkel Neal]

Haha, only liberals

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[Skybird]

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/29/p...ook/index.html


How foul regimes are alike... Shall we be surprised? Probably not, the stink in the air is intense enough. Why do i think that Boltion plays the game long enough to know what top secret information is - and what not?

[Onkel Neal]

I think Bolton is about to make Trump regret firing him so dismissively. The irony is, if Trump had listened to John Bolton instead of firing him as National Security Advisor last year, we would be at war for sure. Now Bolton is going to give him some payback, and the Dems are so pumped. Satan, are you listening? Anything to get Trump!

[FeatsOfStrength]

Originally Posted by August

Exactly. It is rank hypocrisy for the Democrats to hold what amounted to a kangaroo court in the House then go to the Senate and complain about fairness. They made this impeachment bed and I hope the Turtle sends them to it without their conviction supper.

Then we can get on to the next manufactured scandal. You know they have at least one more of these up their sleeve.

If it's "manufactured scandal" as you say then why is the President so desperate to stop witnesses testifying.. to the extent that he would put his foot down on the first amendment and censor the release of John Bolton's book?

I wasn't opposed to Trump when he came into office, it was his disgrace at the 2017 Helsinki summit that really brought out his true colours and made me realise that he is in no way shape or form fit for office. It wasn't the media warping his words on this occasion:



And he exposed his true colors in front of Putin and the whole world. It's what proved to me he is neither a conservative or a republican, he doesn't give a damn about the United States and he is in it for himself.

Everything he is being accused of fits in with his MO of bad decisions and well documented lack of moral fibre. Conservatives should own their mistakes.

[August]

Originally Posted by FeatsOfStrength

If it's "manufactured scandal" as you say then why is the President so desperate to stop witnesses testifying.. to the extent that he would put his foot down on the first amendment and censor the release of John Bolton's book?

From what I understand Boltons book contains classified material, some of it rated Top Secret, and he was just told to remove it before publishing, but because this is about Bad Orange Man that automatically means it just has to be an attack on the first amendment right?

And he exposed his true colors in front of Putin and the whole world. It's what proved to me he is neither a conservative or a republican, he doesn't give a damn about the United States and he is in it for himself.

Well so you say, I feel differently, but what are you going to do, vote for a gun grabbing, deep state, big government Democrat this time or was that what you did in 2016?

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by August

....Well so you say, I feel differently, but what are you going to do, vote for a gun grabbing, deep state, big government Democrat this time or was that what you did in 2016?

I can't help but think that if Trump thought being a gun grabbing, deep state, big government candidate would get him elected he'd be right there. It's all about him and always was.

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

I can't help but think that if Trump thought being a gun grabbing, deep state, big government candidate would get him elected he'd be right there. It's all about him and always was.

Well narcissism is part of every politician and leader throughout human history, including the good ones, so I suppose that is true. But the take away lesson should be that the American people don't want a gun grabbing, deep state, big government president so much they are willing to elect a person like Donald Trump in order to avoid it. It sure doesn't sound like the Democratic party yet understands the lesson.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by August

But the take away lesson should be that the American people don't want a gun grabbing, deep state, big government president so much they are willing to elect a person like Donald Trump in order to avoid it.

The American people voted for Clinton.

[August]

Originally Posted by Dowly

The American people voted for Clinton.

Excuse me, the American People of the 50 states, in accordance with the rules of our constitutional republic, elected Donald Trump in an electoral landslide.

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by August

Excuse me, the American People of the 50 states, in accordance with the rules of our constitutional republic, elected Donald Trump in an electoral landslide.

If only someone had explained the rules to Killary.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by August

Excuse me, the American People of the 50 states, in accordance with the rules of our constitutional republic, elected Donald Trump in an electoral landslide.

Lil boy was defeated by number of votes. your system is manipulation of the laws of math. voting districts get hilariously fought about their exact borders to deny voting majorities within one districts borders to the other party or secure that bordrts are such that one party has an own majority. its a known problem and one that gets criticised time and again.
And you know it.
Fact is that not even every fifth citizen eligible to vote, voted for Trump, if I recall it correctly. clinton got more votes.


the whole concept of electoral college today is obscur and dubios. it allows minorities to defeat majorities and thus destroys the very idea of majority voting.



nothing in that system to be celebrated as holy and best of the best. its one of the worst and most corrupted systems i know. additionally to the parties own level of inherent corruption.