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Old 12-13-19, 05:51 PM   #12121
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Does this election results mean "No free internet"
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Old 12-13-19, 06:35 PM   #12122
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Those Danish politicians who are not so happy when it comes to EU have sent congratulations to Boris and his party.

Those Danish politicians who are for EU.
Have said things like

"Looks more of an opt-out of Corbyn than an option on Brexit and Boris. Poor the many British who, most importantly, want to be part of the European community"

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Old 12-14-19, 04:29 AM   #12123
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Wait until the Americans start to pull you over the table. The lil boy in the White House already sits in the starting block.
Not as if I do not think the Brits could not realise and prevent it. Its just whether the government even wants it, spoiling some of its already sold illusions that way. The US has the longer lever here. Britain may need to learn to say No to the costs for their "special relationship".


Wanting less, managing own ressources moderately. Low tax regime to rival the high taxing schemes of the EU. Finding allies outside the circle of the usual suspects, I would hint at India, as one example. And resosting to get closely bound again to the EU by any EU special trade deal" that binds the UK to tight EU regulations once again.
the UK is already within the US's sphere of influence and has been since the Second World War, i'll be honest with you Trump and his trade deal doesn't worry me at all, if it ends up being absolutely one sided and aimed at exploiting the UK, well Trump will be gone before long and Trade deal's can be re-negotiated. When enough assets are sold off though to foreign investors, at what point is the UK still the UK and not a Chinese asset?

I also don't think Trump quite understands that his trade tariffs on China, production of items affected have literally been bypassed by sending products/resources to satellite factories in other Asian countries when already over 90% assembled and then traded with America with no tariffs. The real harm he has done is placing them on countries such as India, Brazil, the EU etc, turning the previous Republican policy supporting Free Trade on it's head and further reducing the US's geo-political position, and prompting nations to look towards China.

And the UK is one of the worst for prostituting it's assets to the highest bidder, done under both Conservative and Labour governments, people worry about selling off the NHS to the US, but we've already started selling it to China. There is NO political party in the UK that really wants the the country to be independent in a way that is not just a facade.
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Old 12-14-19, 06:17 AM   #12124
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Does this election results mean "No free internet"
Yep no free internet and all those goodies labour tried to bribe us with. Still on the upside public wifi is still free.
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The modern Labour party? Representing the working man

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John McDonnell has said that he will not be part of the shadow cabinet of Jeremy Corbyn’s successor as Labour leader, saying: “I’ve done my bit.”

The shadow chancellor suggested that there will be a broader clear-out of Labour’s upper ranks, telling ITV News: “We will all go now. The new leader will come in place and appoint the shadow cabinet.”
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I had some thoughts surrounding the result of the election, I was wrong though.

So please enlighten me.

What was the British voters telling your politicians by giving:

Tories a majority 365 seats

Labour a major defeat 204 seats

SNP 48 seats

LibDem 11 seats

I did not the rest DUB, Sinn Fein a.s.o.

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I think what the British wanted was a stable clear cut government that would break the deadlock and had a clear goal.

What Corbin had done was create a movement based around his ideas, yet when it come to the key issue of Brexit he was hesitant, he said he would honor the referendum, then he said we must have a peoples vote.

Boris on the other hand has said we will get brexit done he has not left that line, and people can see he has done a lot to try and honor the referendum and has some integrity and does what he says.

I just feel the British people wanted something clear, they were fed up with the stalemate over brexit, they were fed up with politicians scoring cheap points, fed up with the situation in parliament.

the non clarity has affected us financially for 3 years vote for corbin and get more of the same? or vote for boris and at least a clear solution to the stale mate.

If you wanted to know yes i voted conservative.
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England was simply saying "PU to EU"
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I think what the British wanted was a stable clear cut government that would break the deadlock and had a clear goal.

What Corbin had done was create a movement based around his ideas, yet when it come to the key issue of Brexit he was hesitant, he said he would honor the referendum, then he said we must have a peoples vote.

Boris on the other hand has said we will get brexit done he has not left that line, and people can see he has done a lot to try and honor the referendum and has some integrity and does what he says.

I just feel the British people wanted something clear, they were fed up with the stalemate over brexit, they were fed up with politicians scoring cheap points, fed up with the situation in parliament.

the non clarity has affected us financially for 3 years vote for corbin and get more of the same? or vote for boris and at least a clear solution to the stale mate.

If you wanted to know yes i voted conservative.
I come from a Labour voting background, all my friends, family voted Labour. I spoiled my card this time around as I didn't think there was any point in voting for either of the parties as our democracy has been reduced to a battle between personality cults. I fundamentally disagree with political parties as entities, there's no way anyone who has their own opinion of issues can be railroaded so easily into Labour or Conservative in my opinion. I'd rather have independent candidates running on their own platforms.

I've been saying ever since Jeremy Corbyn was voted in as leader of the Labour party that he's not electable in this country, I had a grim satisfaction watching the social media posts of friends who were so deep in their echo chamber that they actually thought there was a chance of him becoming PM. Anyone who has spoken to people should have known the result was inevitable.

Jeremy Corbyn's biggest failure was his inaction on Brexit, that said I seriously doubt that Boris will "Get Brexit done" in the next few months, or that anything he does whilst he's in office will be for the benefit of most people in the UK. I also doubt that after Brexit we will be anymore independent than when inside the EU, once we get around to negotiating new trade deals with foreign super powers as we will be in a poor bargaining position, desperate to sign any one-sided agreement to stop our economy tanking.

In the long term i'm not saying it will necessarily be a bad thing, but in the short term I think there is going to be a lot of economical pain and suffering for most people in the UK.
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