How do you manage to complete patrol in one gaming session?

MarkShot · 04-04-06, 04:57 PM

Given that SH2 has save/reload bugs I was wondering how do people playing PA manage to complete patrols?

I have already written a post-processor for PACG which greatly speeds up the game by:

(1) Eliminating the frequency of the many base generated activities.

(2) Removing the primary requirements to reach the patrol marker or return to base.

(3) Eliminating contact reports and just use the the Koralle Editor to display potential shipping lanes.

Even with this, I see that a single patrol can run many hours. I just cannot muster the patience to only play PA until I get through an entire patrol.

If allow the game to save my patrol and reload it, then enemy escorts will cease engaging me and my patrol will be come a turkey shoot, correct?

So, is everyone playing their patrols through to the end?

PeriscopeDepth · 04-05-06, 02:15 PM

I don't. I play SHI. And hopefully SHIII when I get a new system, if I work up the courage to install something that contains SF.

PD

John Pancoast · 08-13-06, 01:49 PM

Reviving dead thread...........hmmm.....I was thinking of getting PA, but does this issue of not being able to save mid-patrol still exist ?

08-13-06, 02:50 PM

Unfortunately, it was a bug that came with SHII, and as far as I know no fix was ever found.

John Pancoast · 08-13-06, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Unfortunately, it was a bug that came with SHII, and as far as I know no fix was ever found.

Ok, thanks

horsa · 08-13-06, 06:45 PM

Yes , unfortunately this was a code access issue and everything in the mod was done without code access.

It is possible to pause the game and come back later. Not ideal, but it does mean you don't have to play it through in one session.

MarkShot · 08-14-06, 05:46 AM

I actually set up a separate clone of XP in its own disk partition. If I am playing and just want to stop, I just hibernate that partition. When I boot that partition again, the current SH2 gaming session is reloaded again.

Threadfin · 08-14-06, 01:14 PM

A typical patrol takes about 2-3 hours for me, not too bad for a single session.

Hi JohnP, F4 wingman DB here

John Pancoast · 08-14-06, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Threadfin

A typical patrol takes about 2-3 hours for me, not too bad for a single session.

Hi JohnP, F4 wingman DB here

Hah ! Hey DB, what a surprise!

p.s. has the BB server been slow lately; haven't noticed anyone on it much, or am I hitting it at the wrong times ?

John Pancoast · 08-14-06, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkShot

I actually set up a separate clone of XP in its own disk partition. If I am playing and just want to stop, I just hibernate that partition. When I boot that partition again, the current SH2 gaming session is reloaded again.

This sounds interesting. Seeing as my family also uses my (?

) pc, worth looking into.

However, how do you hibernate a partition ?

WutWuzDat · 08-14-06, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Pancoast

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkShot

I actually set up a separate clone of XP in its own disk partition. If I am playing and just want to stop, I just hibernate that partition. When I boot that partition again, the current SH2 gaming session is reloaded again.

This sounds interesting. Seeing as my family also uses my (?

) pc, worth looking into.

However, how do you hibernate a partition ?

2 Diff installs of Xp

MarkShot · 08-15-06, 08:58 AM

I took my main install of XP and cloned it to another partition. I disabled the network card in the device manager for the cloned partition. Thus, I got rid of firewalls, spyware sweepers, virus scanners, and Windows Update. As the partition has no access to the Internet, there is no reason to maintain or patch it; just use it to play PA when I want. You can enable hibernate through power options and then you select it through the shutdown prompt (hibernate instead of shutdown). Next time you boot, everything gets reloaded.

Tools involved:

Partitioning - Partition Magic
Multi-booting - System Commander
Cloning - Norton Ghost

MarkShot · 08-15-06, 09:02 AM

One word of caution, do not allow your hibernated partition to be visible as part of any other installations file system. Doing such will result in corrupting the hibernated partition's file system. This is because while hibernated various file system data structures are effectively cached in the hibernated memory image. (It's safe to allow your secondary XP partition to be visible elsewhere if you do not use the hibernate option - no file system conflicts then.)

John Pancoast · 08-15-06, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkShot

One word of caution, do not allow your hibernated partition to be visible as part of any other installations file system. Doing such will result in corrupting the hibernated partition's file system. This is because while hibernated various file system data structures are effectively cached in the hibernated memory image. (It's safe to allow your secondary XP partition to be visible elsewhere if you do not use the hibernate option - no file system conflicts then.)

Ah, makes sense; thanks for the info. !

Threadfin · 08-15-06, 09:32 AM

He went away for a week and the server was down, but it was back up a few days ago and I hopped on and flew a sortie or two east of Sarajevo. But haven't tried to join in about a week. OFP and GPL are the flavors of the week

04-04-06, 04:57 PM	#1
MarkShot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,134 Downloads: 93 Uploads: 0	How do you manage to complete patrol in one gaming session? Given that SH2 has save/reload bugs I was wondering how do people playing PA manage to complete patrols? I have already written a post-processor for PACG which greatly speeds up the game by: (1) Eliminating the frequency of the many base generated activities. (2) Removing the primary requirements to reach the patrol marker or return to base. (3) Eliminating contact reports and just use the the Koralle Editor to display potential shipping lanes. Even with this, I see that a single patrol can run many hours. I just cannot muster the patience to only play PA until I get through an entire patrol. If allow the game to save my patrol and reload it, then enemy escorts will cease engaging me and my patrol will be come a turkey shoot, correct? So, is everyone playing their patrols through to the end? __________________ War games, not wars! --- Only a small few profit from war (that should not stand)!

08-14-06, 05:46 AM	#7
MarkShot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,134 Downloads: 93 Uploads: 0	I actually set up a separate clone of XP in its own disk partition. If I am playing and just want to stop, I just hibernate that partition. When I boot that partition again, the current SH2 gaming session is reloaded again. __________________ War games, not wars! --- Only a small few profit from war (that should not stand)!

08-14-06, 01:14 PM	#8
Threadfin Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,078 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	A typical patrol takes about 2-3 hours for me, not too bad for a single session. Hi JohnP, F4 wingman DB here __________________ What? Behind the rabbit?

08-15-06, 08:58 AM	#12
MarkShot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,134 Downloads: 93 Uploads: 0	I took my main install of XP and cloned it to another partition. I disabled the network card in the device manager for the cloned partition. Thus, I got rid of firewalls, spyware sweepers, virus scanners, and Windows Update. As the partition has no access to the Internet, there is no reason to maintain or patch it; just use it to play PA when I want. You can enable hibernate through power options and then you select it through the shutdown prompt (hibernate instead of shutdown). Next time you boot, everything gets reloaded. Tools involved: Partitioning - Partition Magic Multi-booting - System Commander Cloning - Norton Ghost __________________ War games, not wars! --- Only a small few profit from war (that should not stand)!

08-15-06, 09:02 AM	#13
MarkShot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,134 Downloads: 93 Uploads: 0	One word of caution, do not allow your hibernated partition to be visible as part of any other installations file system. Doing such will result in corrupting the hibernated partition's file system. This is because while hibernated various file system data structures are effectively cached in the hibernated memory image. (It's safe to allow your secondary XP partition to be visible elsewhere if you do not use the hibernate option - no file system conflicts then.) __________________ War games, not wars! --- Only a small few profit from war (that should not stand)!

04-05-06, 02:15 PM	#2
PeriscopeDepth Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 1,894 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I don't. I play SHI. And hopefully SHIII when I get a new system, if I work up the courage to install something that contains SF. PD

08-13-06, 01:49 PM	#3
John Pancoast Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Minnysoda Posts: 3,189 Downloads: 490 Uploads: 4	Reviving dead thread...........hmmm.....I was thinking of getting PA, but does this issue of not being able to save mid-patrol still exist ?

08-13-06, 02:50 PM	#4
Sailor Steve Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Unfortunately, it was a bug that came with SHII, and as far as I know no fix was ever found.

08-13-06, 06:45 PM	#6
horsa Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Halifax, England Posts: 502 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 3	Yes , unfortunately this was a code access issue and everything in the mod was done without code access. It is possible to pause the game and come back later. Not ideal, but it does mean you don't have to play it through in one session.

08-15-06, 09:32 AM	#15
Threadfin Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,078 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	He went away for a week and the server was down, but it was back up a few days ago and I hopped on and flew a sortie or two east of Sarajevo. But haven't tried to join in about a week. OFP and GPL are the flavors of the week __________________ What? Behind the rabbit?