Is this game really superior?

CaptainSvenski · 02-06-20, 01:58 AM

I've read some articles claiming that SH3 is actually a more in-depth,extensive and covering much more of ww2 subbing than SH5.

They do say the result is only achieved by mods,but since SH3 is a lot more moddable and has a lot more you can get, the claim is it actually turns into a better subsim than SH5 once you really stack it up with mods.

The submarine diversity is the most attractive of those probably,since SH5 decided to cut the war short,you don't get access to Type IX and even Type XXI while in SH3 you can play those.

Im personally the type of gamer spoiled by modern graphics,and the ancient look of SH3 just puts me off,not that SH5 has aged perfectly for a 10 year old game but the graphics are just good enough to not trigger eyesores in 2020.

What are the opinions on this from people who have been playing both games,since I have not played SH3 I can't make a valid comparison myself.

captainadccdacaptain · 02-06-20, 07:28 AM

First of all, SH3 has far more U-boats and upgrades than SH5.

foo_jam2002 · 02-06-20, 09:04 AM

SH III has aged pretty well, the details on ships and submarines are nice and after all it's a game that you don't expect to see many things like in a shooter or an RTS, you are just out to sea, watching the sea and the sky. So i don't understand what exactly puts you off.

Levyathan89 · 02-06-20, 09:16 AM

Also, with the necessary modifications, SH 3 doesn't look too ancient imho.

Edit: damn, foo_jam2002 beat me to it

ChrisPhoenix · 02-06-20, 09:30 AM

I have played every Silent Hunter from 2 to 5 and i have to say, that 3 is still the best. Recently tried to play SH5 again but was dissapointed very quickly and switched back to SH3. SH4 is fine too, but has a diferent setting. If you want to be an american captain, you can have a great time in this one too.

I guess you can have fun with SH5 and twos mod, but for me, it was a bit too much. Currently playing SH3 with gwx for the first time and i'm loving it.
Yes SH5 looks better, but thats about it. Everything else was just more buggy, more clunky and more dumbed down for my taste.

Now i'm not a guy who needs fancy graphics to get immersed in a game, but if it is that important to you, maybe take a look at "Uboat".
2019 was a great year for subsim games with Uboat and Wolfpack coming out.
Wolfpack will soon be the King of multiplayer subsims. I have no doubt about that. While Uboat shines in singleplayer. In my opinion it is not yet better than Silent Hunter, (state of 06.02.2020) but the devs recently added mod and workshop support and after a few more patches i'm sure it will be.

Until then, Silent Hunter 3 will be the game for me.

Levyathan89 · 02-06-20, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisPhoenix

Now i'm not a guy who needs fancy graphics to get immersed in a game, but if it is that important to you, maybe take a look at "Uboat".

Nah, SH5/TwoS is still better than the current version of UBoat (it's still in open access after all). Like, a lot better.

ChrisPhoenix · 02-06-20, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Levyathan89

Nah, SH5/TwoS is still better than the current version of UBoat (it's still in open access after all). Like, a lot better.

In terms of graphics, i don't think so. In terms of gameplay, i did mention that silent hunter is still better but it is only a matter of time before the modding community will change that.

I dare to say that vanilla unmodded uboat is better than vanilla SH5 tho. It is really the mods that make the difference.

foo_jam2002 · 02-06-20, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Levyathan89

Also, with the necessary modifications, SH 3 doesn't look too ancient imho.

Edit: damn, foo_jam2002 beat me to it

I am sure i wasn't the only one

bstanko6 · 02-06-20, 02:39 PM

I have played them all.

SH3 has been extremely modded by dedicated fans. You can’t come close to the level of fun things you can add to it compared to the others.

SH5 is beauty and updated with graphics.

SH5 to me tells a more serious story. While SH3 gives you an experience. If I had to compare the two, and if you’re looking for a real story, I would have to go with five.

I am an immersion player, so I love SH5 for its graphics, it’s story, and its ability to suck me into the story and be part of it. That is why I feel this game is the greatest of all time.

Chief_WH · 02-10-20, 06:43 PM

Hmm, I've given SH3 another go but I think too much time has passsed.

The soul is still there and the world graphics are tolerable, but the field of view when looking about inside and from the bridge is just too narrow and feels very awkward and dated.

Also the GUI really needs to be HD, I found a well made mod for that but it had way too many swastikas.

(Without the HD mod I also had an annoying bug where clicking the mouse button to change view movement fired a torpedo on the UZO because it seemed to focus on that button).

I wonder how SH4 and 5 are doing these days, it was the 'whole crew' and open world choices of SH3 that I loved so much, I don't recall SH4 and 5 having that sort of freedom? Maybe I'll look into SH4; when I tried SH5 some time ago it just made my head hurt the amount of mods that seemed to be required and I don't think I want to go down that hole again...

bstanko6 · 02-10-20, 07:27 PM

I’m not even going to grace that question with an answer!

Shame on you!

Levyathan89 · 02-11-20, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief_WH

I found a well made mod for that but it had way too many swastikas.

Hahaha, yeah, that's Ahnenerbe (a German word that one can only utter in a over the top Hitler kind of way - AHHNENÄRRRRBE)'s 1920*1080 GUI.

There is another HD GUI, though: It's called The Magui:

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...d.php?t=166320

There's a special version available for GWX afaik.

Chief_WH · 02-11-20, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Levyathan89

Hahaha, yeah, that's Ahnenerbe (a German word that one can only utter in a over the top Hitler kind of way - AHHNENÄRRRRBE)'s 1920*1080 GUI.

There is another HD GUI, though: It's called The Magui:

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...d.php?t=166320

There's a special version available for GWX afaik.

Thanks, I'll check that out befor giving up on SH3.

Edit. I can't find it in the SH3 mods, am I just missing it?

Edit. Think I found it; I found the 'search mods' bit not the 'search forum' bit I was using by mistake

Wolfcat · 02-11-20, 04:23 PM

The main killer of SH3 is his inability to use more RAM. If you are using mod like WAC then it's really painful to play. Otherwise, SH3 is superior to SH5 in many aspects. Just remember SH5 is an incomplete product when they launched.

italianmarine · 02-12-20, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolfcat

The main killer of SH3 is his inability to use more RAM. If you are using mod like WAC then it's really painful to play. Otherwise, SH3 is superior to SH5 in many aspects. Just remember SH5 is an incomplete product when they launched.

hmm.
Well Wolfes of Steel Mega Mod is awesome. The only thing missing, is that you don`t have to manage your crew and that earlier Uboats like IIA/D and a few upgrades are not available.

The Radio channels are also an awesome plus in that mod.

02-06-20, 01:58 AM	#1
CaptainSvenski Watch Join Date: Feb 2020 Posts: 18 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Is this game really superior? I've read some articles claiming that SH3 is actually a more in-depth,extensive and covering much more of ww2 subbing than SH5. They do say the result is only achieved by mods,but since SH3 is a lot more moddable and has a lot more you can get, the claim is it actually turns into a better subsim than SH5 once you really stack it up with mods. The submarine diversity is the most attractive of those probably,since SH5 decided to cut the war short,you don't get access to Type IX and even Type XXI while in SH3 you can play those. Im personally the type of gamer spoiled by modern graphics,and the ancient look of SH3 just puts me off,not that SH5 has aged perfectly for a 10 year old game but the graphics are just good enough to not trigger eyesores in 2020. What are the opinions on this from people who have been playing both games,since I have not played SH3 I can't make a valid comparison myself.

02-06-20, 02:39 PM	#9
bstanko6 Admiral Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Murwik Naval Academy Posts: 2,122 Downloads: 390 Uploads: 13	I have played them all. SH3 has been extremely modded by dedicated fans. You can’t come close to the level of fun things you can add to it compared to the others. SH5 is beauty and updated with graphics. SH5 to me tells a more serious story. While SH3 gives you an experience. If I had to compare the two, and if you’re looking for a real story, I would have to go with five. I am an immersion player, so I love SH5 for its graphics, it’s story, and its ability to suck me into the story and be part of it. That is why I feel this game is the greatest of all time. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] BSTANKO6'S SH5 NAVAL ACADEMY http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPbe...W2NArCA/videos DISCORD https://discord.gg/6tFeTSUmVc

02-10-20, 07:27 PM	#11
bstanko6 Admiral Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Murwik Naval Academy Posts: 2,122 Downloads: 390 Uploads: 13	I’m not even going to grace that question with an answer! Shame on you! __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] BSTANKO6'S SH5 NAVAL ACADEMY http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPbe...W2NArCA/videos DISCORD https://discord.gg/6tFeTSUmVc

02-06-20, 07:28 AM	#2
captainadccdacaptain Gunner Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Deep southern part of US Posts: 98 Downloads: 49 Uploads: 0	First of all, SH3 has far more U-boats and upgrades than SH5.

02-06-20, 09:04 AM	#3
foo_jam2002 Sailor man Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 49 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	SH III has aged pretty well, the details on ships and submarines are nice and after all it's a game that you don't expect to see many things like in a shooter or an RTS, you are just out to sea, watching the sea and the sky. So i don't understand what exactly puts you off.

02-06-20, 09:16 AM	#4
Levyathan89 Soundman Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Dresden, Germany Posts: 147 Downloads: 49 Uploads: 0	Also, with the necessary modifications, SH 3 doesn't look too ancient imho. Edit: damn, foo_jam2002 beat me to it

02-06-20, 09:30 AM	#5
ChrisPhoenix Bosun Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 62 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	I have played every Silent Hunter from 2 to 5 and i have to say, that 3 is still the best. Recently tried to play SH5 again but was dissapointed very quickly and switched back to SH3. SH4 is fine too, but has a diferent setting. If you want to be an american captain, you can have a great time in this one too. I guess you can have fun with SH5 and twos mod, but for me, it was a bit too much. Currently playing SH3 with gwx for the first time and i'm loving it. Yes SH5 looks better, but thats about it. Everything else was just more buggy, more clunky and more dumbed down for my taste. Now i'm not a guy who needs fancy graphics to get immersed in a game, but if it is that important to you, maybe take a look at "Uboat". 2019 was a great year for subsim games with Uboat and Wolfpack coming out. Wolfpack will soon be the King of multiplayer subsims. I have no doubt about that. While Uboat shines in singleplayer. In my opinion it is not yet better than Silent Hunter, (state of 06.02.2020) but the devs recently added mod and workshop support and after a few more patches i'm sure it will be. Until then, Silent Hunter 3 will be the game for me.

02-10-20, 06:43 PM	#10
Chief_WH Watch Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 30 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	Hmm, I've given SH3 another go but I think too much time has passsed. The soul is still there and the world graphics are tolerable, but the field of view when looking about inside and from the bridge is just too narrow and feels very awkward and dated. Also the GUI really needs to be HD, I found a well made mod for that but it had way too many swastikas. (Without the HD mod I also had an annoying bug where clicking the mouse button to change view movement fired a torpedo on the UZO because it seemed to focus on that button). I wonder how SH4 and 5 are doing these days, it was the 'whole crew' and open world choices of SH3 that I loved so much, I don't recall SH4 and 5 having that sort of freedom? Maybe I'll look into SH4; when I tried SH5 some time ago it just made my head hurt the amount of mods that seemed to be required and I don't think I want to go down that hole again...

02-11-20, 04:23 PM	#14
Wolfcat Chief Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 325 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	The main killer of SH3 is his inability to use more RAM. If you are using mod like WAC then it's really painful to play. Otherwise, SH3 is superior to SH5 in many aspects. Just remember SH5 is an incomplete product when they launched.