UK Politics Thread - Page 701

Jimbuna · 07-24-19, 08:05 AM

Can hardly wait

Jimbuna · 07-24-19, 09:59 AM

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The new Lib Dem leader asked Theresa May what advice she would give to women dealing with men "who think they can do a better job, but are not prepared to do the actual work".

In reply, the outgoing PM urged all women to "be true to themselves" and "persevere", before congratulating Jo Swinson on her appointment.

Mrs May noted how many female party leaders there were in the House, adding that Labour was "the only party letting the side down".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-pol...-party-leaders

A nice and most fitting parting shot from Theresa

STEED · 07-24-19, 10:02 AM

What a load of BS Bojo is spouting, we are screwed.

Jimbuna · 07-24-19, 10:04 AM

Sounds like someone just woke up to the smell of the coffee.

STEED · 07-24-19, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Sounds like someone just woke up to the smell of the coffee.

After downing a number of energy drinks.

I will not give him to the next general election before he falls on his rubber sword.

HEY BOJO 5 BLOODY WEEKS TO SEE MY GP NOT 3!!!!

Bilge_Rat · 07-24-19, 12:42 PM

not as in the weeds as you guys, but what does it mean if anything that Dominic Cummings is becoming a senior aide to Johnson?

I only know him from the "Brexit" movie.

Skybird · 07-24-19, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

^ Sky, in the simplest of terms....there is no way on earth that Parliament will accept a no deal Brexit.

Errr - why you tell me? Its not needed, I am aware of how the score stands.

Question: how will it be regarding the legal situation if nothing gets done but Johnosn does not get put down, but stays in office - and then October 31st comes and no deal on the table and the house not agreeing to leaving without a deal? What will decide it then? The house's decision and rule from some weeks ago that parliament must have the final word on brexit, or the letter of the law saying that if no agreement is signed it will be "Brexit yes", without deal? Which of these two legal conditions overrules the other?

STEED · 07-24-19, 02:08 PM

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Prime Minister Boris Johnson: Who's in his cabinet?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49043973

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Michael Gove Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster

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Duchy of Lancaster is appointed by the Sovereign on the advice of the Prime Minister

Hey was it the Queen? Nice one, a thorn in Boris's side.

Skybird · 07-24-19, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Hey was it the Queen? Nice one, a thorn in Boris's side.

About Ben Wallace (defence) they write: "He is married with three children."

Where's the uproar...?

Catfish · 07-24-19, 02:17 PM

Yes, after this 'speech' i understand why Trump likes him.

kraznyi_oktjabr · 07-24-19, 03:37 PM

Wikipedia says, that in the House of Commons there are 650 seats of which one is vacant and seven are "occupied" Sinn Fein absenters which brings total to 642 seats.

HM's Government has 321 seats (311 Tories and 10 DUPers). HM's Most Loyal Opposition (Steptoe's gang) has 247 seats while other oppostion has 73 seats. This would mean 321-320 majority for the HM's Government.

This brings up three questions:

1) According to the Wikipedia, there are 16 nominally independent MPs of which 5 have set up new parliamentary group. How many of these would support BoJo's cabinet in vote of no-confidence?

2) How many of Tory MPs would prefer losing their seat in general elections instead of supporting BoJo's cabinet?

3) Last but not least important: Is Wikipedia correct and have I counted this correctly?

STEED · 07-24-19, 05:01 PM

The Government has a majority of three with the backing of the DUP. Most of Parliament are EU remainers. The Tory MP's who are remainers sitting on a small majority that could loose their seats at the next general election could if they so choose become independent or join the LibDems. If Bojo looses four MP's he is in for a very hard time, question is will four or more during the summed break go for it. I have my doubts.

STEED · 07-24-19, 07:02 PM

Mogg appointed leader of the house.

Action this day...More like a bus crash.

Listening to LBC radio and they have said the odds on a general election this year have gone up big time.

Mr Quatro · 07-24-19, 08:30 PM

Isn't October 31st Halloween ... Trick or treat day?

Jimbuna · 07-25-19, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Question: how will it be regarding the legal situation if nothing gets done but Johnosn does not get put down, but stays in office - and then October 31st comes and no deal on the table and the house not agreeing to leaving without a deal? What will decide it then? The house's decision and rule from some weeks ago that parliament must have the final word on brexit, or the letter of the law saying that if no agreement is signed it will be "Brexit yes", without deal? Which of these two legal conditions overrules the other?

As things currently stand there is an act of Parliament in place stating we leave on 31st October. Should there be no agreement by then, that is what would happen. The only way out is for legislation to be passed rescinding Article 50.

My personal opinion is that this has not happened yet because MP's whose constituencies voted to leave would be showing there hand in public and many would show themselves to be in conflict with the wishes of those constituents who voted them in office.

A much preferred alternative will be to call a general election through a vote of no confidence in the government but that brings with it the risk of a bigger majority voting to leave and the MP's are running scared of the reality imho.

Parliament is currently unfit for purpose and it may take the actions of this current PM whether you like him or not to give the whole debacle a good shaking.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

07-24-19, 08:05 AM	#10501
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07-24-19, 10:02 AM	#10503
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	What a load of BS Bojo is spouting, we are screwed. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

07-24-19, 10:04 AM	#10504
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07-24-19, 12:42 PM	#10506
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,793 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	not as in the weeds as you guys, but what does it mean if anything that Dominic Cummings is becoming a senior aide to Johnson? I only know him from the "Brexit" movie. __________________

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07-24-19, 03:37 PM	#10511
kraznyi_oktjabr Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Republiken Finland Posts: 1,803 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Wikipedia says, that in the House of Commons there are 650 seats of which one is vacant and seven are "occupied" Sinn Fein absenters which brings total to 642 seats. HM's Government has 321 seats (311 Tories and 10 DUPers). HM's Most Loyal Opposition (Steptoe's gang) has 247 seats while other oppostion has 73 seats. This would mean 321-320 majority for the HM's Government. This brings up three questions: 1) According to the Wikipedia, there are 16 nominally independent MPs of which 5 have set up new parliamentary group. How many of these would support BoJo's cabinet in vote of no-confidence? 2) How many of Tory MPs would prefer losing their seat in general elections instead of supporting BoJo's cabinet? 3) Last but not least important: Is Wikipedia correct and have I counted this correctly? __________________ You talk to God, you're religious. God talks to you, you're psychotic. - Dr. House Last edited by kraznyi_oktjabr; 07-24-19 at 03:43 PM. Reason: Grammar fix

07-24-19, 05:01 PM	#10512
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	The Government has a majority of three with the backing of the DUP. Most of Parliament are EU remainers. The Tory MP's who are remainers sitting on a small majority that could loose their seats at the next general election could if they so choose become independent or join the LibDems. If Bojo looses four MP's he is in for a very hard time, question is will four or more during the summed break go for it. I have my doubts. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

07-24-19, 07:02 PM	#10513
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Mogg appointed leader of the house. Action this day...More like a bus crash. Listening to LBC radio and they have said the odds on a general election this year have gone up big time. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

07-24-19, 08:30 PM	#10514
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