US Politics Thread 2016-2020 - Page 708

AVGWarhawk · 09-15-20, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by u crank

I would say that you are quite correct. And to be fair the same could be said about how people on the Right view the ideolgical policies of President Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

It's time to stop looking at personal behavior and examine policy. Neither Trump's twitter habits or Biden's declining health will effect how people live. But their policies will.

What policies does Biden have other than spewing catch words to his base? Climate change. Free healthcare. Less taxes. Social Justice. The usual crap spewed every election.

Biden has yet to denounce and condemn the shooting of two police officers in LA. Why is that? Will Biden take a stance of police de-funding? He is on a very slipper slope supporting one(BLM) and dropping the other(police).

u crank · 09-15-20, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

What policies does Biden have other than spewing catch words to his base? Climate change. Free healthcare. Less taxes. Social Justice. The usual crap spewed every election.

Biden has yet to denounce and condemn the shooting of two police officers in LA. Why is that? Will Biden take a stance of police de-funding? He is on a very slipper slope supporting one(BLM) and dropping the other(police).

I'm pretty sure that Biden says exactly what he is told to say. It's disturbing but Joe is going to have to display a lot more willingness to prove that isn't so. Question is will he?

JU_88 · 09-15-20, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank

I would say that you are quite correct. And to be fair the same could be said about how people on the Right view the ideolgical policies of President Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

It's time to stop looking at personal behavior and examine policy. Neither Trump's twitter habits or Biden's declining health will effect how people live. But their policies will.

Very true, you had some Tea Party nutters insisting obama was a Muslim terrorist - they were about as sane and well informed as the people who call Trump, Hitler.

Skybird · 09-15-20, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

The Matrix was a silly sci-fi movie. They used humans to create energy...? Dumb. They should have used cows,more energy and less pushback.

No, the machines' plan actually was very clever. Instead of turning just harmless cows into energy that then would be needed to get wasted for the war against a hostile mankind, they turnd hostile mankind itself into energy, kept almost all that energy for themselves, and had to fight nobody. Threat removed. Energy conserved. Win-win.

Its as if an army invading another country stops worrying about logistics of food supply chains, instead eats the dead enemies killed in the battle before. Maybe not tasteful. But efficient.

Skybird · 09-15-20, 04:56 PM

I never felt love for electronic voting. To call this method an execution of utmost naivety is a polite understatement.

From this piece by Windows expert Susan Bradley: https://www.askwoody.com/2020/checki...e-usa-centric/

In the qabove, I especially point out: https://www.darkreading.com/omdia/bl...a/d-id/1338707

And for Californians:

https://ballottrax.com/
https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/bal...eres-my-ballot

Susan Bradley also links this ressource for all Americans to check:

https://microsoft.turbovote.org/

And in a wider context, these links are included in the above:

https://decider.com/2020/09/09/the-s...entary-review/

https://www.microsoft.com/security/b...al-harvesting/

mapuc · 09-15-20, 05:06 PM

In the Primetime news I heard the journalist who is in USA saying following.

It's about the shooting at these two policeofficer who was sitting in their police car in Los Angeles.

"The general perception among Americans is that a war is being waged with the country's police forces"

Is this true do you my American friends have this view there's a war against your police forces ?

Markus

JU_88 · 09-15-20, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

In the Primetime news I heard the journalist who is in USA saying following.

It's about the shooting at these two policeofficer who was sitting in their police car in Los Angeles.

"The general perception among Americans is that a war is being waged with the country's police forces"

Is this true do you my American friends have this view there's a war against your police forces ?

Markus

I heard about that, some sicko then filmed it while laughing, protesters then turned up at the hospital to celebrate and shout 'Your next' at other officers, really messed up. George Floyds death was messed up too, but this a whole new level of disturbing.

Buddahaid · 09-15-20, 06:47 PM

I think so but I also think it's been that way for decades. Ever since the war on drugs escalated, gangster mentality became urban cool and the big drug cartels became more violent, the police responded by becoming more paramilitary. Now we have this mess and the attempts to defund the police. The police need reform but the war will go on as long as lawlessness tries to win. It's already well past the point where anything but serious crime is ignored. People suck and they suck more and more.

JU_88 · 09-15-20, 06:54 PM

Yeah, I hope the US can pull though in the end, though at the moment it seems like a perfect storm over there, even if the craziness is only a minority.

Catfish · 09-16-20, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JU_88

Yeah, I hope the US can pull though in the end, [...], even if the craziness is only a minority.

be sure?

Skybird · 09-16-20, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JU_88

I heard about that, some sicko then filmed it while laughing, protesters then turned up at the hospital to celebrate and shout 'Your next' at other officers, really messed up. George Floyds death was messed up too, but this a whole new level of disturbing.

Yes killing for joy always is sick, in any context. But what has happened there, had to be expectec sooner or later. Some people, and by growing number, feel they have a right for revenge, for payback at the police. And if this sentiment spreads, in a country as weapon-saturated as the US, then the problems have just begun.

JU_88 · 09-16-20, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

be sure?

Yeah Im sure, thats a relatively passive form of 'crazy' Cat, even if the second guy is clearly delusional. (While the other two are pretty average.)

Still, not the same a dehumanizing another group and celebrating acts of violence against them, that is past the point of no return.

Catfish · 09-16-20, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by u crank

I'm pretty sure that Biden says exactly what he is told to say. It's disturbing but Joe is going to have to display a lot more willingness to prove that isn't so. Question is will he?

If Trump gets dementia, how will you know?

skidman · 09-16-20, 04:50 AM

He will talk about herd mentality, viruses magically disappearing and vaccines magically materializing.

skidman · 09-16-20, 05:08 AM

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ses-joe-biden/

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The evidence and the science show that Donald Trump has badly damaged the U.S. and its people—because he rejects evidence and science. The most devastating example is his dishonest and inept response to the COVID-19 pandemic, which cost more than 190,000 Americans their lives by the middle of September.

09-15-20, 04:56 PM	#10610
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,494 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I never felt love for electronic voting. To call this method an execution of utmost naivety is a polite understatement. From this piece by Windows expert Susan Bradley: https://www.askwoody.com/2020/checki...e-usa-centric/ In the qabove, I especially point out: https://www.darkreading.com/omdia/bl...a/d-id/1338707 And for Californians: https://ballottrax.com/ https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/bal...eres-my-ballot Susan Bradley also links this ressource for all Americans to check: https://microsoft.turbovote.org/ And in a wider context, these links are included in the above: https://decider.com/2020/09/09/the-s...entary-review/ https://www.microsoft.com/security/b...al-harvesting/ __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-15-20, 06:47 PM	#10613
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,558 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	I think so but I also think it's been that way for decades. Ever since the war on drugs escalated, gangster mentality became urban cool and the big drug cartels became more violent, the police responded by becoming more paramilitary. Now we have this mess and the attempts to defund the police. The police need reform but the war will go on as long as lawlessness tries to win. It's already well past the point where anything but serious crime is ignored. People suck and they suck more and more. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

09-16-20, 04:50 AM	#10619
skidman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Near the Dutch mountains Posts: 1,147 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	He will talk about herd mentality, viruses magically disappearing and vaccines magically materializing. __________________ "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.” (Douglas Adams)

09-15-20, 05:06 PM	#10611
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,877 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	In the Primetime news I heard the journalist who is in USA saying following. It's about the shooting at these two policeofficer who was sitting in their police car in Los Angeles. "The general perception among Americans is that a war is being waged with the country's police forces" Is this true do you my American friends have this view there's a war against your police forces ? Markus

09-15-20, 06:54 PM	#10614
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,727 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Yeah, I hope the US can pull though in the end, though at the moment it seems like a perfect storm over there, even if the craziness is only a minority.