Your Ideal Doomsday Survival Situation/Prepper Thread

[August]

Originally Posted by skidman

None of your business.

That ought to apply to you as well.

[Jeff-Groves]

Originally Posted by skidman

Don't know what is going on inside your head, but the effluent is disturbing to say the least.

I highly doubt you even know what effluent means.
"liquid waste or sewage discharged into a river or the sea."
Really?


Gonna think about your post for a second..........
OK. Don't care comes to mind.

[skidman]

You get the idea.

[Jeff-Groves]

Originally Posted by skidman

You get the idea.

Yeah and only thing I can come up with is.....
If I decide to jump off a building and you disagree with my choice?
I will consider your advice like I would given the choice to breed with a skunk.

Both stink.
Just don't walk into my AO if STF!

Being your are over the Pond? What do you really care what the heck I do here in Ohio?
Are you judging me and what right gives you that?

[Jeff-Groves]

I think the only right you have is to post your opinion.
I'll give you that one. Don't mean I'll give a darn.
Those are to expensive to just hand out to anyone.

I rate opinions based on several factors.
Are you even in the USA? Think you failed that one.
Are you anywhere near me? OOPS! Failed again!
How much am I concerned about your opinion? Another FAILED!

1 out of 4 ain't bad.

[ET2SN]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Bug out to where? Hotel in another area? Relatives? Country estate?

Third cousins twice removed, old college roommates, shoot, if you could have made it to south-central Iowa you could have put me on the spot and asked and you didn't even serve on a submarine.

The point being, in an emergency its very hard to be a "Richard" to people you know.

Even with the power down, they tend to get the main roads passable for EMS and emergency services early-on.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by ET2SN

Third cousins twice removed, old college roommates, shoot, if you could have made it to south-central Iowa you could have put me on the spot and asked and you didn't even serve on a submarine.

The point being, in an emergency its very hard to be a "Richard" to people you know.

Even with the power down, they tend to get the main roads passable for EMS and emergency services early-on.

Ok, so you have some destination in mind. I always wonder what people intend when they mention "bugging out".

[Catfish]

^ Yes, always depends on the circumstances, like if there is another/better place to go at all. Having papers and clothes ready is always useful advice, along with some emergency clothing and food/water.
Living "off the grid" can be great fun though.

Friends and me had this discussion before, if there is a major problem with civilisation like a nuclear war or a meteorite, there are of course no options left.
If circumstances allow we always had the idea of having a sailing boat ready, well maintained and stuffed with fuel, food and reserves, at least enough to survive some weeks.
Everyone would get there once a year in turn or together, to sail it and do some maintenance work, a problem would of course be to get it into the water in an emergency, without crane or slip system. In case the .. hit the fan we would drive down there and meet, and discuss where to go.
With some water conditioner/water maker(?), solar panels and fishing equipment you would be able to hold out for quite some time.

This is of ourse pure fantasy, you would have to be quite rich just for the proper storage of the boat, let alone the initial price and all

[Onkel Neal]

Yeah, that's a cool strategy but I would think it works best if you live near the marina and you use the boat frequently throughout the year. For anything less than collapse of civilization, a nice week-long fishing trip would be awesome!

But like you said, the boat and equipment would need to be maintained. I lurk on a prepper forum or two, and during this latest Texas disaster, there were more than a few "preppers" who spent many posts leading up to this, boasting about how ready they were for a hurricane or disaster. Then the SHTF and it's "Da**** it! All three of my gennies failed." Sounds like all 3 of the gennies were junk, not maintained, not ready. If you had a boat, yeah, that would be sweet but only if it was good to go.

[Mr Quatro]

Boats will have to face pirates you know

Pirates can sink fiberglass easy

No to boats

Plus if it's that bad you will just have to get in line for something and all you can carry would be the norm.

Unless your are bigger than they are they (your know who they are, right)
They will want to look into your back pack

[Catfish]

I did not say it was made of fibre glass. Problem would be getting there.

[ET2SN]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Pirates can sink fiberglass easy

So can angry squirrels who are hunting sharks.

[ET2SN]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Ok, so you have some destination in mind. I always wonder what people intend when they mention "bugging out".

The other side of the coin is that if you can get somewhere else, you aren't a burden on the emergency services folks who are trying to bring the local area back online.

One house having all of its electric loads turn back on is not a problem. Having an entire town try to re-energize everything at the same time can be a headache. Likewise, someone's going to step on a nail or slip on the ice or drink some tainted water. Its best not to overwhelm the ER.

[ET2SN]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Then the SHTF and it's "Da**** it! All three of my gennies failed." Sounds like all 3 of the gennies were junk, not maintained, not ready.

Lucky for me, I did all of the small engine work in my Dad's garage when I was growing up.

Small engines have a bad habit of failing.
If you blew off your end of season maint. on the lawn mower or chain saw, chances were good you would need to see me the next spring.

This was up in northern Maine, where people are supposed to know better.

I got a nice Generac ac/dc unit after we had a freak heavy snow storm followed by an ice storm. Most of the state lost power for four to five days. I had an electrician buddy do the wiring and switches on the house and I did stuff with the generator like using high grade synthetic oil in the crank case and using fuel stabilizer in the fuel I would cycle through to keep it fresh.

The big problem was that the freak storm was just that, a freak. The generator was just sitting around. The biggest hassle was that my folks had modernized the house to being all-electric and tossed out the old wood stove in the living room, which was all we really needed for the emergency.

After a while, I kept the house wiring in place but sold the generator to a carpenter. He used it for a year or two before he burned the piston and trashed the anti-vibration mounts.

The lesson being- don't trust a totem to save your ###.
A portable generator is little more than a nice idea that lets you feel safe.
In practical terms, folks either don't know how to use them or they forget.

Shutting a generator down the right way becomes a pain and the carb gets glazed up with varnish from old gas and the oil turns to sludge. Your modern Briggs and Stratton gas engine is supposed to only last for 2-5 years before it wears out, Honda isn't far behind in terms of quality. Gasoline and oil plus plastic parts is trouble waiting to happen. Its better to build them cheap and sell more. It was designed that way, which is why you see so many junk lawn mowers sitting by the edge of the road during the summer.

Now, before you need to argue that-consider that the old pot-bellied stove was all my folks needed for the emergency.

[Mr Quatro]

I hate the click bait of Quora, but this was in my mail box today and I thought it might be a good topic for us

If there is a nuclear war and I am hiding in a bunker on land that I own, will the government come and take it?
Yes.

One of the basic provisions of post-attack reconstruction is the pooling of resources, this means, in practice, the temporary abolishment of private property.

Your bunker could be used as a radiation-free hospital, food storage site, etc. Your supplies would be confiscated as well.

You would be assigned a job, a place to stay, food, clothing, and medical attention by the government.