US Politics Thread 2021-24

[mapuc]

(following is nothing more than a funny input in the US political discussion)

(Imagine a Borg cube where all sides of it has a picture of Biden-Huge covering the entire side)

Approaching Earth

Earthling-You will be assimilated Into the Dems Collective, where you will become a drone - resistance is futile

End if nothing more than a funny....

Markus

[Reece]

Smoking too much weed Markus!!

[Buddahaid]

Well I've smoked too much and I didn't get there, what's going on, is there no one I can trust....????

[Skybird]

Military U-turn. Not only will the US not reduce troops presence in Germany - it will even boost it by around 500.

[Rockstar]

We changed our mind because Merkle was colluding with Putin over Nordstream2.

[Rockstar]

The liberal lemmings err I mean Democrats love the military industrial war machine more than most. Its why Trump had to go. .

New Poll: US Military Occupations Supported By Far More Democrats Than Republicans

https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/01...n-republicans/

This didn’t happen by itself, and it didn’t happen by accident. American liberals didn’t just spontaneously start thinking endless military occupations of sovereign nations is a great idea yesterday, nor have they always been so unquestioningly supportive of the agendas of the US war machine. No, Democrats support the unconscionable bloodbaths that their government is inflicting around the world because they have been deliberately, methodically paced into that belief structure by an intensive mass media propaganda campaign...


Trump’s occasional positive impulses, like the agenda to withdraw US troops from Syria and Afghanistan, are painted as weakness and foolishness by the intelligence veterans who now comprise so much of corporate liberal media punditry.

And their audience laps it up because by now mainstream liberals have been trained to have far more interest in opposing Trump than in opposing war.



And how sick is that?



Obviously Trump has advanced a lot of toxic agendas which need to be ferociously opposed, but how warped does your mind have to be to make a religion out of that opposition which is so all-consuming that it eclipses even the natural impulse to avoid inflicting death and destruction upon your fellow man?

How viciously has the psyche of American liberals been brutalized with mass media psyops to drive them into this psychotic, twisted reality tunnel?


There was one group in the aforementioned survey which was not nearly as affected by the propaganda as armchair liberals.



To the statement “The U.S. has been engaged in too many military conflicts in places such as Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan for too long, and should prioritize getting Americans out of harm’s way,” military households responded 54 percent that this statement aligns with their view.

Turns out when it’s your own family’s blood and limbs on the line, people are a lot less willing to commit to endless violence. Sixty percent of Republicans agreed with this statement, while only 41 percent of Democrats did.

Could these statistics have something to do with the fact that younger veterans are statistically much more likely to be Republicans than Democrats?

Is it possible that a major reason Trump beat Hillary Clinton, and a major reason Republicans are now far less bloodthirsty than Democrats, is because mothers, fathers, sisters and brothers are tired of flag-draped coffins being shipped home containing bodies which were ripped apart for no legitimate reason in senseless military entanglements on the other side of the world?

Seems likely. And it also seems likely that the mass media propaganda machine is having a harder time steering people toward war once they’ve personally tasted its true cost.

Now that we have another war brewing where did all the liberal pyscho get trump koolaid drinking war mongering windbags go too? The silence is deafening.

[Jimbuna]

US President Joe Biden is set to announce that American troops will leave Afghanistan by 11 September, officials have told US media.

The US would miss a May deadline for a pull-out agreed with the Taliban by the Trump administration last year.

The new deadline would coincide with the 20th anniversary of the terror attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon in the US in 2001.

Mr Biden had previously said the 1 May deadline would be tough to meet.

US and Nato officials have said the Taliban, a hardline Islamist movement, have so far failed to live up to commitments to reduce violence.

The Taliban have been warned that if they attack US troops during the pull-out phase, they "will be met with a forceful response", said a senior administration official who was briefing reporters.

Mr Biden had decided a hasty withdrawal that would put US forces at risk was not a viable option, the official added.

At the same time, a review of US choices determined that now was the time to close the book on the 20-year conflict in Afghanistan to focus on more acute threats.

Mr Biden is due to make the announcement himself on Wednesday.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56737563

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

US President Joe Biden is set to announce that American troops will leave Afghanistan by 11 September, officials have told US media.

The US would miss a May deadline for a pull-out agreed with the Taliban by the Trump administration last year.

The new deadline would coincide with the 20th anniversary of the terror attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon in the US in 2001.

Mr Biden had previously said the 1 May deadline would be tough to meet.

US and Nato officials have said the Taliban, a hardline Islamist movement, have so far failed to live up to commitments to reduce violence.

The Taliban have been warned that if they attack US troops during the pull-out phase, they "will be met with a forceful response", said a senior administration official who was briefing reporters.

Mr Biden had decided a hasty withdrawal that would put US forces at risk was not a viable option, the official added.

At the same time, a review of US choices determined that now was the time to close the book on the 20-year conflict in Afghanistan to focus on more acute threats.

Mr Biden is due to make the announcement himself on Wednesday.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56737563

We created the Taliban to fight Russians when they were in Afghanistan. Russians 'asked' us they be allowed withdraw peacefully. But the Talban harrassed them all the way back to mother Russia.

We couldn't control them then, I doubt we will control them now.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

We couldn't control them then, I doubt we will control them now.

Most likely

[Jimbuna]

Hours after US President Joe Biden proposed a summit with Russia's Vladimir Putin, the Kremlin has said it will study the idea.

"It is early to talk about this meeting in terms of specifics," said Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov.

Mr Biden made the proposal on the phone with Mr Putin, raising concerns about Russia's troop build-up on Ukraine's borders, the White House said.

Mr Biden also spoke of building a "stable and predictable" relationship.

The phone-call late on Tuesday was only the second conversation that President Biden has had with Russia's leader since he took office in January. Moscow recalled its ambassador for consultations last month after Mr Biden said he considered President Putin to be a "killer".

Mr Biden's predecessor, Donald Trump, met Mr Putin in Finland in 2018 and Finnish President Sauli Niinisto has reportedly offered to host a new summit.

Mr Niinisto's office said in a statement that he had a long call with the Russian leader on Tuesday evening and expressed concern about the troop build-up.

Mr Peskov said on Wednesday that "without doubt bilateral ties are important".
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56746138

[mapuc]

I must have suffered from some type of time amnesia.

How much I try I can only remember Obama before Biden...I know this isn't true there is a empty time space of 4 years.

I really want to remember who was the president between these two.

Markus

[3catcircus]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Hours after US President Joe Biden proposed a summit with Russia's Vladimir Putin, the Kremlin has said it will study the idea.

"It is early to talk about this meeting in terms of specifics," said Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov.

Mr Biden made the proposal on the phone with Mr Putin, raising concerns about Russia's troop build-up on Ukraine's borders, the White House said.

Mr Biden also spoke of building a "stable and predictable" relationship.

The phone-call late on Tuesday was only the second conversation that President Biden has had with Russia's leader since he took office in January. Moscow recalled its ambassador for consultations last month after Mr Biden said he considered President Putin to be a "killer".

Mr Biden's predecessor, Donald Trump, met Mr Putin in Finland in 2018 and Finnish President Sauli Niinisto has reportedly offered to host a new summit.

Mr Niinisto's office said in a statement that he had a long call with the Russian leader on Tuesday evening and expressed concern about the troop build-up.

Mr Peskov said on Wednesday that "without doubt bilateral ties are important".
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56746138

We all know the Kremlin's response was a polite "F&$@ off," if even that. I saw it as Putin putting Biden on his "pay no mind" list.

[Rockstar]

After Biden accused a legitimate head of state of being a 'killer'. Afterwards Putin offered an open debate. Think about it, an opportunity for two powerful heads of State to share thoughts and opinions for the world to see. But Im afraid we dont have a president who is capable of public speech without embarassing himself and the nation.

I heard Finland's, and Russia's leaders speak. Instead we send warships and only hear about phone calls being made but absolutely no content what was said.

[mapuc]

Will it be a summit where one of them have a hidden agenda =determined on his goal.

During our history there has been a lot of these..Chamberlain meeting with Hitler..despite "peace in our lifetime" Hitler had during their meetings a hidden agenda.

Markus

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I must have suffered from some type of time amnesia. How much I try I can only remember Obama before Biden...I know this isn't true there is a empty time space of 4 years.

It is not about time, there indeed is an empty, black nothing.

I really want to remember who was the president between these two. Markus

Oh no you don't