US Politics Thread 2021-24 - Page 329

Buddahaid · 01-05-23, 05:56 PM

He can cut a deal with democrats as well.

mapuc · 01-05-23, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank

The only sure way that McCarthy can lose is to drop out. He will end up making all the concessions necessary to win. Like Rockstar said, who else is there?

One of my American friend wrote this some hours ago.

Omg I wish a grown-up would walk into the house of representatives going on the 8th vote and it's only the democrats that's are united constantly 212 votes for Jeffries, McCarthy still at 201 !!!!

Can the Dems do that-United on one of their own ?

Markus

August · 01-05-23, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

He can cut a deal with democrats as well.

Not without loosing a majority of his solid Republican votes.

And what is the threshold for recalling a speaker currently? I seem to recall it's 50. Definitely attainable.

Rockstar · 01-05-23, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

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It has become ridiculous already longer time ago. Probably the whole system is. Its surreal, bizarre.

The House of Representatives is responsible for the election of the Speaker of the House. This is provided by the United States Constitution, as per Article I, Section 2. The Speaker of the House of Representatives are elected every subsequent time a new House is to convene for the first time.

It may be unusual that it didn’t happen on the first vote but certainly doesn’t make it bizarre. It’s a system that’s been in place for a few hundred years now. Speakers are voted in by their peers not appointed or assumed as if by magic. Even Pelosi’s nomination for speaker was at one time in question.

I’m sure there is plenty of wheelin’ and dealin’ and jockeying for position going on.

Drama

mapuc · 01-05-23, 06:28 PM

As I understand it.

Dems vote only on their own candidate
GOP vote only on their own Candidate

Isn't there a person both side can put their vote on ?

Or is your politics divided by a 20 meter concrete wall ?

Markus

u crank · 01-05-23, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

He can cut a deal with democrats as well.

You mean these Democrats?

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3...inst-mccarthy/

les green01 · 01-05-23, 06:53 PM

biden once again call harris president again how many times has he done that and he wants to visit the border we better form a big arrow pointing to the border if not he ridable end up wandering the middle of kansas saying there a border around here somewhere

Buddahaid · 01-05-23, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank

You mean these Democrats?

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3...inst-mccarthy/

Yeah, them.

Skybird · 01-05-23, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

The House of Representatives is responsible for the election of the Speaker of the House. This is provided by the United States Constitution, as per Article I, Section 2. The Speaker of the House of Representatives are elected every subsequent time a new House is to convene for the first time.

It may be unusual that it didn’t happen on the first vote but certainly doesn’t make it bizarre. It’s a system that’s been in place for a few hundred years now. Speakers are voted in by their peers not appointed or assumed as if by magic. Even Pelosi’s nomination for speaker was at one time in question.

I’m sure there is plenty of wheelin’ and dealin’ and jockeying for position going on.

Drama

Its outdated, like the whole election system is. all those holy rules may have made sense in the ciotnext fo the times they were created in, but the context has chnaged while the world and the times have changed. Its petrified ritual.

Read Gormenghast by Mervyn Peake, then you know where it leads: hollowed out ceremonies and petrified rituals.
(Fantastic and bizarr and humours and artistic gothic novel, btw, read it even if not interested in the political debate, it is not political at all. One of my books for the island list. Do not watch the films, they are terrible).

Add to it that the system already is being intentionalyl derailed and abused for powerpolitical opportunism.

No, its not holy, not everlasting. Nothing man-made ever is. Historic context is key.

Buddahaid · 01-05-23, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Its outdated, like the whole election system is. all those holy rules may have made sense in the ciotnext fo the times they were created in, but the context has chnaged while the world and the times have changed. Its petrified ritual.

Read Gormenghast by Mervyn Peake, then you know where it leads: hollowed out ceremonies and petrified rituals.
(Fantastic and bizarr and humours and artistic gothic novel, btw, read it even if not interested in the political debate, it is not political at all. One of my books for the island list. Do not watch the films, they are terrible).

Add to it that the system already is being intentionalyl derailed and abused for powerpolitical opportunism.

No, its not holy, not everlasting. Nothing man-made ever is. Historic context is key.

Maybe so but it's still working and preventing any one person from taking power.

Rockstar · 01-05-23, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

As I understand it.

Dems vote only on their own candidate
GOP vote only on their own Candidate

Isn't there a person both side can put their vote on ?

Or is your politics divided by a 20 meter concrete wall ?

Markus

Nothing that I know of says the speaker of the house must be a current member of the House or affiliated with a political party. I suppose the possibilities are endless.

August · 01-05-23, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

Nothing that I know of says the speaker of the house must be a current member of the House or affiliated with a political party. I suppose the possibilities are endless.

Can you think of anyone that would be acceptable to both parties? I can't.

Rockstar · 01-05-23, 09:55 PM

Based on my very uninformed opinion. Everyone in the puzzle palace seems to appreciate the work The Clerk of the House; The Honorable Cheryl L. Johnson doing. She doesn't appear to take any crap from either party.

Buddahaid · 01-05-23, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

Based on my very uninformed opinion. Everyone in the puzzle palace seems to appreciate the work The Clerk of the House; The Honorable Cheryl L. Johnson doing. She doesn't appear to take any crap from either party.

She used to teach Kindergarten.

Rockstar · 01-05-23, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

She used to teach Kindergarten.

I know it will never happen. But I did read her bio, she's not stupid nor seem to be interested in trying to win a popularity contest and she has been fulfilling the role since Pelosi stepped down.

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les green01 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Freeman Missouri Posts: 1,735 Downloads: 1375 Uploads: 0	biden once again call harris president again how many times has he done that and he wants to visit the border we better form a big arrow pointing to the border if not he ridable end up wandering the middle of kansas saying there a border around here somewhere __________________ I'll tell you what bravery really is. Bravery is just determination to do a job that you know has to be done. Audie Murphy

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Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,841 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Based on my very uninformed opinion. Everyone in the puzzle palace seems to appreciate the work The Clerk of the House; The Honorable Cheryl L. Johnson doing. She doesn't appear to take any crap from either party. __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time. Last edited by Rockstar; 01-05-23 at 10:36 PM.