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08-02-21, 06:45 PM | #1 |
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Confused about mission
Wolves of Steel mod; On my first patrol after Baltic Operations.
My orders are to patrol AN7936. OK, fine. But I see there are five operations listed as "ongoing" when I save the game: Breaking the Fortress Operation Wesserbung SouthWestern Approaches NorthWestern Approaches Eastern British Coastal Waters After my grid patrol, do I pick one of these based on the one that ends earliest? Or wait to have one assigned? I thought that "Eastern British Coastal" was next in the campaign flow chart and that I was to do that after my current patrol. |
08-03-21, 06:16 AM | #2 |
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Yes pretty much so. Select mission at base. gives you best chance of doing them within time limit. As you progress the objective dates can be difficult to meet
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08-03-21, 09:54 AM | #3 |
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One Theatre can have several missions, all these missions have an end date and can be done (multiple times) as long as the end date is not there yet. So every time you finish a mission, you go back to bunker, end patrol, make a bunker save, reload, do another mission. (that way your campaign change will not be messed up). Your results are kept in another file so will not be deleted when you delete your autosave_enter_base after you have made a bunker save directly after.
For instance: Mediterranean, play mission Malta supplies, select in bunker. Do mission, return, end patrol. Save in bunker (Bunker_save_Malta_1) Load Bunker_save_Malta_1, select mission Breakthrough Gibraltar, play mission, return, end patrol, Save in bunker (Bunker save Breakthrough_Gibraltar_1), load that save and go on to select mission Tobruk, and so on. You can do that as many times as you want during the entire theatre campaign if the end date for a mission has not passed when you start that mission, just make sure you are out at sea and not in the vicinity of any ships during campaign change!! And keep that date also in mind during your game/missions since every time you end a patrol your crew goes on leave for a few weeks!!! (You can change the days in port (Leave) in KDS Commander) And use the mod change days in port via JGSME. Also if you do a normal, inbetween save game during a mission, do not save when in the vicinity of any other ship or aircraft. [you need to be quite accurate with your naming of savegames!!!] I basically delete every autosave_enter_base as soon as I have made a bunker save and started a new patrol mission. (you can do that during the mission at sea when you click on escape, save game, and in the bottom right you see a delete button). So. Campaigns have end dates, missions have end dates. Mission end dates are only important for the Theatre Campaign result, Campaign end-date is important for campaign change and takes you to the new campaign in the campaign list. Be aware of every date! Here is a list of everything in Sh5 TWOS (copied from a topic on subsim I cannot find anymore.... Thanks to whoever compiled it!) COASTAL WATERS 31/08/39 - 01/06/40 Flotilla 2nd Bases - Memel (31-08-1939 to 01-09-1939) Kiel (02-09-1939 to 31-09-1939) Wilhelmshaven (01-10-1939 to 31-06-1940) Stock boat issue - VIIA Baltic Operations 31/08/39 - 05/09/39 Eastern British Coastal Waters 04/09/39 - 01/12/39 Breaking The Fortress 10/09/39 - 15/10/39 North Western Approaches 21/09/39 - 01/04/40 South Western Approaches 01/01/40 - 01/06/40 Operation Weserubung 20/03/40 - 11/04/40 HAPPY TIMES 15/06/40 - 01/03/41 Flotilla 2nd Bases - Wilhelmshaven (01-10-1939 to 31-06-1940) Lorient (01-07-1940 to 31-08-1944) Stock boat issue - VIIB Atlantic Air Gap 15/06/40 - 31/01/41 Western Approaches 01/10/40 - 01/02/41 Strategic Supplies 01/11/40 - 01/03/41 MARE NOSTRUM 15/03/41 - 01/12/41 Flotilla 23rd Transfer from 2nd flotilla Kiel 15-03-1941 with new boat. Bases - La Spezia (15-03-1941 to 31-05-1941) Salamis/Piraeus (01-06-1941 to 01-12-1941) Stock boat issue - VIIC Breakthrough Gibraltar 01/03/41 - 01/09/41 Deliveries for Malta 01/03/41 - 01/09/41 Siege of Tobruk 01/04/41 - 01/12/41 Middle East Supplies 01/06/41 - 01/12/41 10th Flotilla 01/09/41 - 30/11/41 East Mediterranean Convoys 01/09/41 - 01/12/41 WESTERN APPROACHES 20/03/41 - 01/12/41 Flotilla 6th Transfer from 2nd flotilla Kiel 20-03-1941 with new boat. Bases - St Nazaire (05-04-1941 to 31-08-1944) Stock boat issue - VIIC British Supplies 20/03/41 - 01/12/41 Gibraltar Supply Route 20/03/41 - 01/12/41 Winston's Special 20/03/41 - 01/12/41 CENTRAL ATLANTIC SUPPLIES (was South Atlantic Supplies) 01/04/41 - 30/11/41 South Atlantic Convoys 01/04/41 - 01/12/41 BATTLE OF THE MEDITERRANEAN 15/12/41 - 01/09/42 Flotilla 29th Bases - La Spezia (15-12-1941 to 01-05-1942) Toulon (01-05-1942 to 31-12-1942) Stock boat issue - VIIC Siege of Malta 15/12/41 - 01/08/42 Fortress Gibraltar 15/12/41 - 01/09/42 Rommel's Supplies 15/12/41 - 01/09/42 Raid on Malta 01/01/42 - 01/06/42 Eastern Fleet 01/01/42 - 01/09/42 Operation Pedestal 07/06/42 - 20/08/42 OPERATION DRUMBEAT 12/12/41 - 01/09/42 Flotilla 2nd Bases - Lorient (12-12-1941 to 31-08-1944) Stock boat issue - VIIC U-Boat Blitz 12/12/41 - 01/02/42 Second Happy Time 12/12/41 - 01/08/42 Tanker Alley 01/03/42 - 01/09/42 ARCTIC CONVOYS 19/12/41 - 19/09/42 Flotilla 11th Bases - Bergen (19-12-1941 to 19-09-1942) Stock boat issue - VIIC PQ/QP Convoys 19/12/41 - 16/06/42 Soviet Waters 19/12/41 - 01/07/42 Arctic Blockade 01/01/42 - 19/09/42 Arctic Convoys 01/02/42 - 01/09/42 JW/RA Convoys 01/05/42 - 19/09/42 DISTANT WATERS 15/09/42 - 15/02/43 Flotilla 3rd Transfer from 29th flotilla Toulon 15-09-1942 Bases - La Pallice (16-09-1941 to 31-08-1944) Stock boat issue - VIIC South America Supplies 15/09/42 - 31/12/42 Caribbean Oil 15/09/42 - 31/12/42 CapeTown Supplies 01/10/42 - 15/02/43 War in Distant Waters 01/11/42 - 15/02/43 THE BLACK PIT 20/09/42 - 15/02/43 Flotilla 9th Bases - Brest (20-09-1942 to 20-02-1943) Stock boat issue - VIIC The Triumph of the Wolfpack 20/09/42 - 17/12/42 The Gap Closers 01/10/42 - 15/02/43 The Torch 20/10/42 - 15/02/43 British Supplies 01/12/42 - 15/02/43 TURNING POINT 01/03/43 - 15/06/44 Flotilla 9th Transfer from Kiel 15-03-1943 with new boat. Bases - La Pallice (16-09-1943 to 30-05-1944) Wilhelmshaven (31-05-1944 to 30-09-1944) Stock boat issue - VIIC41 TW Spring 43 01/03/43 - 31/05/43 TW Summer 43 01/06/43 - 31/08/43 TW Autumn 43 01/09/43 - 30/11/43 TW Winter 43 01/12/43 - 39/02/44 TW Spring 44 01/03/44 - 15/06/44 Invasion Imminent 01/05/44 - 07/06/44 MONSUN GRUPPE 01/03/43 - 15/06/44 Flotilla 7th Transfer from La Pallice 02-03-1943 Bases - Penang (03-03-1943 to 01-08-1943) Singapur (02-08-1943 to 01-05-1944) Transfer to La Pallice 02-05-1944 Stock boat issue - VIIC41 Passage into The Rising Sun * 01/03/43 - 23/07/43 The Monsun Boats ** 20/04/43 - 01/11/43 (requires * pass/fail to activate) The Riches of India *** 01/07/43 - 20/04/44 (requires ** pass/fail to activate) Australia Isolation *** 01/10/43 - 20/04/44 (requires ** pass/fail to activate) Evacuation 01/03/44 - 15/06/44 (requires *** pass/fail to activate) THE FINAL YEARS 01/07/44 - 09/05/45 Flotilla 9th Bases - Wilhelmshaven (01-07-1944 to 30-09-1944) Bergen (01-10-1944 to 09-05-1945) Transfer to Loch Ryan (Scotland - Operation Deadlight) 09-05-1945 Stock boat issue - VIIC41 Tonnage War 44 01/07/44 - 31/12/44 The North Sea 01/09/44 - 09/05/45 Tonnage War 45 01/01/45 - 09/05/45 Urgent Message 05/05/45 - 09/05/45 Best, Ashi.
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08-04-21, 06:00 PM | #4 |
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WOW!! Fantastic answer! I wish I knew that after finishing Baltic Operations. I chose Eastern British Coastal Waters and I'll never make it back to the bunker before Breaking the Fortress reaches it's end date.
I may still have a manual bunker save when I finished Baltic... If I do, I'll abandon my present mission as it won't expire until December and start the other! |
08-24-21, 12:13 PM | #5 |
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Thank you so much for the very detailed answer. Now to restart after I study it some more.
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