Wuhan virus 2020

[skidman]

No, you are American macaques who throw Corona-Parties to get infected there:

https://time.com/5862571/alabama-coronavirus-parties/

[August]

Originally Posted by skidman

No, you are American macaques who throw Corona-Parties to get infected there:

https://time.com/5862571/alabama-coronavirus-parties/

Well shoot, me and the thousands of people I know and work with didn't get our invitations. Must have been an oversight.

[August]

Mean while:

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by skidman

No, you are American macaques who throw Corona-Parties to get infected there:

https://time.com/5862571/alabama-coronavirus-parties/

Yeah that was pretty dumb

[Skybird]

A new battleground opens up between the EU and the Disunited States of Trump, but this time it is the EU side seeking to take the initiative and threatening to open fire.

Originally Posted by https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/ausland/corona-medikament-fuer-europa-zwangslizenz-fuer-remdesivir-16844581.html

The European Commission released a drug for the treatment of Covid-19 for the first time on Friday: Remdesivir. Health Commissioner Stella Kyriakides spoke of "an important step in the fight against the virus". This approval was given "less than a month after the application was submitted", demonstrating the EU's determination to "react quickly as new treatments become available". However, the Commissioner from Cyprus hid one important detail: the drug will not be available to Europeans in the foreseeable future. The US government contractually secured 500,000 treatment units at the end of June. This corresponds to the entire production of the single manufacturer Gilead by July and ninety percent of its capacity in August and September.

This has not gone unnoticed by the experts in Brussels. They are suspicious of how Donald Trump's government is signing exclusive contracts. The CDU health politician in the European Parliament Peter Liese therefore issued an unmistakable threat on Friday. "I think it is necessary for Gilead to share his knowledge with other companies and to let them enter the market as competitors so that care can be provided for the largest possible number of patients worldwide," said Liese. One relies on cooperation and dialogue. If that fails, there is also a Plan B: “It is possible that the member states of the European Union jointly issue compulsory licenses, that is, also against the will of Gilead, enable the drug to be manufactured in the EU by other companies, and we will move also consider trade measures. "

As can be heard in Brussels, France and Germany have long been preparing for a compulsory license scenario. The legal basis for this can be found in the 1995 Agreement on Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights, Trips for short. It states that patent law finds its limit in the case of necessary protection of "public order", which includes "protection of human health". The agreement grants states the right to "take necessary measures to safeguard public health and nutrition". Article 31 regulates the conditions for a possible compulsory license. This means the granting of the production license to a producer in their own country without the permission of the patent holder.

Liese wants the Commission to coordinate such a step and then the Member States to take it together; only they are contracting parties. The point can also be found in a position paper on health policy, which his group, the Christian-Democratic European People's Party, unanimously adopted on Wednesday. There, with reference to a vaccine against Covid-19, it says: "If a vaccine is developed outside Europe and others do not want to share it with us, we also have a plan B", namely "to issue compulsory licenses". Liese reports that he is in frequent contact with representatives of the Gilead company, which also produces other medicines and is therefore entering the European market. "The question of how the European institutions see this company now very much depends on us being treated fairly," says the health politician, who is a doctor himself.

The CDU man also believes trade policy consequences are necessary if the American government continues its course in health policy. As a role model, he sees a list of punitive tariffs on American products with which the EU Commission has responded to America's reintroduction of tariffs on steel and aluminum. “The health of citizens and overcoming this serious crisis must be at least as important to us as the European auto industry. That is why we have to be ready to also impose trade sanctions, ”he said on Friday

The EU Commission has granted conditional market approval for Remdesivir. This means that, according to the experts, the drug is likely to be effective and has few side effects. However, this must be investigated further during treatment; the company must submit reports to the European Medicines Agency (EMA) by December. The EMA applies the rapid procedure, called "rolling review", to emergencies in the area of ​​public health.

Wait until the first vaccine is ready. That will be fun.

[skidman]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Yeah that was pretty dumb

But calling Europeans 'sheep' is a brilliant move. Some people on this board are clearly into double standards.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by skidman

But calling Europeans 'sheep' is a brilliant move. Some people on this board are clearly into double standards.

Don't take the bait.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by August

Mean while:

? Ok, so we're safe? So, cases are going up...so? Oh, I see, when the cases and death started going vertical, the shutdowns averted a national catastrophe. When the state govts started easing the shutdowns, and ignorant Americans disregarded all common sense, the cases are going back up. Got it.

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by August

Mean while:

At first glance I thought it was the Texas/Louisiana coast line

Which reminds me of the coming hurricane season ...

Will Texas still require face mask and social distancing?

[August]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

? Ok, so we're safe? So, cases are going up...so? Oh, I see, when the cases and death started going vertical, the shutdowns averted a national catastrophe. When the state govts started easing the shutdowns, and ignorant Americans disregarded all common sense, the cases are going back up. Got it.

But not deaths which as you knew was the point. Keep everyone on lockdown for a year, assuming that is possible without society crumbling completely, and you'd still be facing a new wave of infections when you do finally open it back up. Medical science is not going to save everyone from getting covid no matter how long you keep them imprisoned in their homes. Waiting for a vaccine is a nation destroying pipe dream.

[Onkel Neal]

Deaths not going up, check.

Let's circle back in 16 days, shall we?

Keep everyone on lockdown for a year, assuming that is possible without society crumbling completely, and you'd still be facing a new wave of infections when you do finally open it back up. Medical science is not going to save everyone from getting covid no matter how long you keep them imprisoned in their homes.

Ok, let's strip the hyperbole from this and remember, no one is saying we have to stay imprisoned at home or in total lockdown to manage this crisis. I don't care what Sean Hannity says, we can reduce the number of cases and death and still have a functional economy if we distance, mask, and reduce the number of social interactions, especially unnecessary ones. Texas had a good chance to avoid this, we knew how this played out in New York, but nooo, we opted to insist on our "rights and freedoms" instead of some traditional courtesy toward others. I guess we'll see how it plays out.

And your chart needs to be updated, the July 1 - 2 spike exceeds 50,000 cases.

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

PM Boris Johnson has held a press conference on the eve of some lockdown measures being eased in England.

He says local lockdowns - like that in Leicester - will be "a feature of our lives for some time to come"

There is no "risk-free next step" says chief medical adviser Prof Chris Whitty.

Businesses' success is dependent on "every single one of us acting responsibly", says PM

People arriving in England from dozens of nations will no longer need to quarantine from 10 July.

New figures suggest 20,000 care home residents have died with Covid-19 in England and Wales since the beginning of March.

The governor of Texas has ordered face coverings to be worn in public as US virus cases rocket.

India's reported more than 20,000 new cases in a single day for the first time since the outbreak began.

Globally there are 10.8m virus cases and there have been more than 520,000 deaths.

[Mr Quatro]

The governor of Texas has ordered face coverings to be worn in public as US virus cases rocket.

Texas is still a big state this new rule only applies to counties with more 20 cases