Wuhan virus 2020 - Page 72

Onkel Neal · 03-12-20, 04:48 PM

I've been told this is a fake website that delivers malware. See the circled url and avoid it.

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UNCLASSIFIED (U) - TLP: WHITE PAGE: 1 OF 2
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY:
A malicious website pretending to be the live map for Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases by Johns Hopkins University is circulating on the internet waiting for unwitting internet users to visit the website. Visiting the website infects the user with the AZORult trojan, an information stealing program which can exfiltrate a variety of sensitive data. It is likely being spread via infected email attachments, malicious online advertisements, and social engineering. Furthermore, anyone searching the internet for a Coronavirus map could unwittingly navigate to this malicious website.

Threat Details
A sample of the malware being deployed by “corona-virus-map[dot]com” was submitted and analyzed by and received an extremely malicious threat score of 100/100 with Anti-virus (AV) detection at 76%. This sample was labelled by Hybrid-Analysis as a Trojan.

Recommendations
End users should be warned about this cybersecurity risk and security teams should blacklist any indicators associated with this specific threat. IOCs and Analysis may be found here: https://blog.reasonsecurity.com/2020...alysis-report/

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Onkel Neal · 03-12-20, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

Contrary to popular believe the United States healthcare system is not one big for profit only system. By law private hospitals must treat emergency room patients. How bills get paid later is another matter. I know from experience there are a truck load of charities and institutions who help if not pay all in these matters when people cant afford the bill.

Why do you think your insurance rates keep going up? Why do you think doctor charges, tests and hospital fees are so high? You're paying for those patients. You're footing the bill for those costs.

Skybird · 03-12-20, 05:29 PM

This is about a fictional virus scenario study from 2012, delivered to the German Bundestag in 2013, with striking similiarities, but also differences, to the current scenario. However, the conclusion must be: the authorities should and could have done better, faster, quicker, more decisively. The federalist structure of Germany, currently works against us in full effect.

The study was ordered in (late) reaction to SARS .

http://translate.google.com/translat...F25637470.html

We can only hope that we can evade the dimension this study outlines over the cause of three years.

In the end, we will survive and probably defeat this virus. The question is how many years it will take, how many lives, how much economic damage will be done, and how many people must suffer. Clear also is that in the coming months, and not just a few months, but the rest of this year and probably also the coming year, many things we have taken for granted so far, will change.

mapuc · 03-12-20, 05:43 PM

^ Been thinking almost the same.

How servere will the aftermath be. Because there will be an aftermath the question is how servere and how it will hit us.

Markus

Rufus Shinra · 03-12-20, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Why do you think your insurance rates keep going up? Why do you think doctor charges, tests and hospital fees are so high? You're paying for those patients. You're footing the bill for those costs.

Add to this your taxes paying for the healthcare system in your country. And yet somehow in pretty much every other developed country out there, we pay roughly half less and we get everyone covered with objectively better results. Mainly because getting preventive medicine and not waiting until it becomes an emergency makes healthcare cheaper and more effective for everyone (https://external-preview.redd.it/h6W...=webp&5f0b3e64). You get more for your buck with the systems chosen by Japan, Germany, Sweden, UK, Canada and the others, all the while having a healthy biomedical industry. Back in 2009, you paid three times more taxes for the healthcare system than a Japanese citizen, and without getting the same amount of service.

The thing is that even if you are very wealthy, it's not working that much better either with this system. This graph from your National Academy of Medicine shows the life expectancy for 50-yo people depending on their relative wealth in each country. It shows that in the best of cases, the wealthiest people in the US live just as long as the wealthiest in Canada or France (only men in that latter case), while the other categories quickly fall behind. In short, the system is too inefficient for additional spending to be worthwhile.

If people wait for illness to become ER material in everyday life because they cannot afford otherwise, why would they act differently for Covid-19?

Buddahaid · 03-12-20, 07:16 PM

Your taxes are higher to pay for it.

Anyway, the New York Auto Show has been rescheduled for August. Seems like everybody is finally taking is seriously in the USA. Now if we can only match South Korea for testing but I doubt it. They're doing 20,000 tests a day with easy to use drive up testing stations because they had a plan and implemented it.

https://www.hagerty.com/articles-vid...wsletter_NewDD

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51836898

Rufus Shinra · 03-12-20, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Your taxes are higher to pay for it.

No. That's the point, the taxes are LOWER pretty much everywhere else for better results:

The system is inherently inefficient in the US due to its organization, and it leads to a situation where you are more vulnerable to epidemics while getting overall inferior service, while the other countries still manage to fund well their biomedical R&D. I mean, you could save roughly one trillion dollars a year by shifting to a more efficient system (300 million people times 3000 dollars saved per capita) and it would improve the performance. Wanna go on Mars? That's how you fund it.

Mr Quatro · 03-12-20, 07:39 PM

Breaking news

Disneyland and Disneyworld to close scroll on CNN

Buddahaid · 03-12-20, 07:50 PM

Forgot that one. It's no longer the happiest place on Earth.

Kptlt. Neuerburg · 03-12-20, 11:36 PM

My store went through eight PALLETS, that's right pallets of TP and paper towels in only a couple of hours. People know that this is a virus and not a hurricane right?

Buddahaid · 03-13-20, 12:05 AM

Well crap!

I think it's more a question of not wanting to go shopping among the "unclean".

ET2SN · 03-13-20, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Well crap!

Assuming we all make it, imagine what next Halloween will be like.

Rufus Shinra · 03-13-20, 02:53 AM

Schools and universities to close for at least two weeks in France starting next Monday. The government will compensate companies that have to send people home when remote work isn't possible (if you're a factory and have to send some of your workers home, you'll still pay them but the gov' will reimburse you for that, so we don't see mass bankruptcies and lay-offs due to the epidemic).

Catfish · 03-13-20, 03:12 AM

Hello Rufus Shinra,
thanks for posting this, i just tried the link 3-4 posts above but it does not work ("forbidden blah.."). Is there another link?
Thank you.

Rufus Shinra · 03-13-20, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Hello Rufus Shinra,
thanks for posting this, i just tried the link 3-4 posts above but it does not work ("forbidden blah.."). Is there another link?
Thank you.

This one should work well: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._OECD_2008.png

This also shows interesting stats, notably on how spending a lot more leads to less doctors per capita, higher infant death, lower life expectancy and more preventable deaths: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health...al_comparisons

People in the US aren't dumber or more fragile than elsewhere, but the healthcare system is criminally inefficient.

03-12-20, 05:29 PM	#1068
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,497 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	This is about a fictional virus scenario study from 2012, delivered to the German Bundestag in 2013, with striking similiarities, but also differences, to the current scenario. However, the conclusion must be: the authorities should and could have done better, faster, quicker, more decisively. The federalist structure of Germany, currently works against us in full effect. The study was ordered in (late) reaction to SARS . http://translate.google.com/translat...F25637470.html We can only hope that we can evade the dimension this study outlines over the cause of three years. In the end, we will survive and probably defeat this virus. The question is how many years it will take, how many lives, how much economic damage will be done, and how many people must suffer. Clear also is that in the coming months, and not just a few months, but the rest of this year and probably also the coming year, many things we have taken for granted so far, will change. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

03-12-20, 07:16 PM	#1071
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,558 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	Your taxes are higher to pay for it. Anyway, the New York Auto Show has been rescheduled for August. Seems like everybody is finally taking is seriously in the USA. Now if we can only match South Korea for testing but I doubt it. They're doing 20,000 tests a day with easy to use drive up testing stations because they had a plan and implemented it. https://www.hagerty.com/articles-vid...wsletter_NewDD https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51836898 __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

03-12-20, 07:39 PM	#1073
Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Breaking news Disneyland and Disneyworld to close scroll on CNN __________________ pla•teau noun a relatively stable level, period, or condition a level of attainment or achievement Lord help me get to the next plateau ..

03-12-20, 07:50 PM	#1074
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,558 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	Forgot that one. It's no longer the happiest place on Earth. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

03-12-20, 11:36 PM	#1075
Kptlt. Neuerburg Admiral Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	My store went through eight PALLETS, that's right pallets of TP and paper towels in only a couple of hours. People know that this is a virus and not a hurricane right? __________________ "When you're born into this world, you're given a ticket to the freak show. If you're born in America you get a front row seat." - George Carlin

03-12-20, 05:43 PM	#1069
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,887 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	^ Been thinking almost the same. How servere will the aftermath be. Because there will be an aftermath the question is how servere and how it will hit us. Markus

03-13-20, 12:05 AM	#1076
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,558 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	Well crap! I think it's more a question of not wanting to go shopping among the "unclean". __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

03-13-20, 02:53 AM	#1078
Rufus Shinra Soundman Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: The land of the free with a glorious military history (France) Posts: 141 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Schools and universities to close for at least two weeks in France starting next Monday. The government will compensate companies that have to send people home when remote work isn't possible (if you're a factory and have to send some of your workers home, you'll still pay them but the gov' will reimburse you for that, so we don't see mass bankruptcies and lay-offs due to the epidemic).

03-13-20, 03:12 AM	#1079
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Hello Rufus Shinra, thanks for posting this, i just tried the link 3-4 posts above but it does not work ("forbidden blah.."). Is there another link? Thank you. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.