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Old 03-03-16, 03:24 PM   #121
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Nothing to stop France tearing it up though.
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Old 03-04-16, 11:15 AM   #122
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Nothing to stop France tearing it up though.
True that....but the Channel will once again be our front line of defence.
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I hear from Sky News yesterday that French Minister got told off by his boss and the agreement stays in place. As jim said above the channel stands in the way, it seems to be more scare from the stay in the EU lot.
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Old 03-04-16, 12:42 PM   #124
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Yeah, the Channel is still in the way...but the Mediterranean is in the way between Africa and Europe and look how well that's gone...not to mention we built two big tunnels under the Channel.
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Old 03-04-16, 06:00 PM   #126
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Yeah, the Channel is still in the way...but the Mediterranean is in the way between Africa and Europe and look how well that's gone...not to mention we built two big tunnels under the Channel.
Simples.....we impose the same requirements on the rail and ferry companies that we impose on the airlines.

No entry without the correct documentation and an instant return to start of journey location.
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Simples.....we impose the same requirements on the rail and ferry companies that we impose on the airlines.

No entry without the correct documentation and an instant return to start of journey location.
That only works if they come in as passengers, they're not even doing that now, they come via lorries and to stop and scan every single lorry that uses either the Chunnel or the Ferries would slow down traffic and cause massive tail backs.
Then there's the small boats making quiet runs between France and the UK, not so easy to do any more thanks to modern radar, but I imagine that the smarter ones will find ways, tucking in behind cargo ships perhaps to mask the radar return and then darting out to land on a beach at night.
We'd have to up our spending on border security a hell of a lot if the French withdrew their co-operation.
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I hear Lord Rose in the Pro EU camp said if we withdraw we would pay higher wages! Is he feeling alright saying things like that?
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That only works if they come in as passengers, they're not even doing that now, they come via lorries and to stop and scan every single lorry that uses either the Chunnel or the Ferries would slow down traffic and cause massive tail backs.
Then there's the small boats making quiet runs between France and the UK, not so easy to do any more thanks to modern radar, but I imagine that the smarter ones will find ways, tucking in behind cargo ships perhaps to mask the radar return and then darting out to land on a beach at night.
We'd have to up our spending on border security a hell of a lot if the French withdrew their co-operation.
Those are the possibilities that the counter-measures would have to be funded for to guard against.

It is now up to the electorate to dictate to the government whatever requirement is necessary.

Same for the French mind, massive congestion etc. should they decide to renage on a treaty that has nothing to do with the EU.
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Old 03-14-16, 01:53 PM   #132
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EU referendum: Barack Obama to urge Britons to back remain vote on UK visit

"Barack Obama will jet into the UK next month and use his star power to convince Britons they should vote to stay in the European Union."

What? Why would he do that? I like the phrase "star power" though.
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EU referendum: Barack Obama to urge Britons to back remain vote on UK visit

"Barack Obama will jet into the UK next month and use his star power to convince Britons they should vote to stay in the European Union."

What? Why would he do that? I like the phrase "star power" though.
Maybe he wants a job in the EU.
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Obama has become an "elder statesman", that is for sure.
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I'm not sure many if any of the electorate will take much notice of what Obama will say, taking he is obviously coming to support a PM who is growing more unpopular by the day.
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