Ready to admit your were wrong?

[Bubblehead1980]

I just don't know how much evidence those who voted for obama needs.Are you ready to admit your mistake\ in supporting this fool? With all the mounting evidence(From the scandals to the radical associations, to his failed keynesian economics, failure to contain Iran, extreme naivete' in dealing with Putin, constantly violating the constitution with the NDAA, summary execution of US citizens via drone strikes, taking the side of the muslim brotherhood in Egypt, Libya ,) this presidency has been a disaster.Now, he is, as even Ed Schultz put it, Bush light when it comes to war.Obama is beating the war drums hard, he wants his war with Syria, to hell with the lives it will cost, to hell with the money he will spend, to hell with possibily igniting a war.Obama will as always, ignore the constitution and do what he wants, he will ignore congress.All this is dress rehearsal of course for his attempt to seek a third term.

Again, my question is are those of you who support this monster ready to admit you are wrong? This is not about left or right here, this is about coming to terms that you were duped.Hey, I almost was in 2008, I liked him until I did some research and found out about the real Barack Hussein Obama.

[vienna]

No, but I will admit you are an impressively persistent troll...


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[TarJak]

In before Obama.

[Takeda Shingen]

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

I ... Are you ready to admit your mistake\ in supporting this fool? With all the mounting evidence(From the scandals to the radical associations, to his failed keynesian economics, failure to contain Iran, extreme naivete' in dealing with Putin, constantly violating the constitution with the NDAA, summary execution of US citizens via drone strikes, taking the side of the muslim brotherhood in Egypt, Libya ,) this presidency has been a disaster.

Do you really think a politician like Bush or Obama really governs the USA ?

1. The US is not a democracy in original sense, common people cannot elect directly. As they say it is a 'constitutional republic'. This means rich powerful people influence elections and build up the candidates themselves. No politician is rich and/or powerful himself to pay those fees for entering as a candidate.
Unless Mr. Ford or Rockefeller would have campaigned themselves.
(Which is why i would propose to elect our economical bosses directly, without using politicians as puppets. Spares a lot of money.)

2. The second a politician has been elected, the real powers (economical and those who really know, like e.g. secret services) tell him what's really up, and that is when he can say goodbye to his ideals and campaign pledges (if there was any idealism left). With this new nasty knowledge of what's really going on there is not much leeway to navigate, for the 'president'.

Greetings,
Catfish

edit: P.S. Sorry for taking you seriously

[AVGWarhawk]

Community organizer. Quite the resume. But no better than Bush's resume.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Community organizer. Quite the resume. But no better than Bush's resume.

Or B movie actor, for that matter.

[mapuc]

It's not only in the USA it's every were. however is your president, prime minister etc there will always be people that hate them.

We shall not forget though we have free speech and it's their opinion. I however do not agree on these

Markus

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

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Dude!

Why stir the pot? There's enough angst to go around already.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Or B movie actor, for that matter.

Reagan has a much stronger resume than obama or Bush.Reagan had been the successful governor of California and involved in political affairs a while.Bush was a successful governor of texas at least.What had obama done? Exploit poor, uneducated, fellow black (mostly) people in Chicago for political gain.so impressive! Constitutional Law Professor? What a joke. I would drop his class if wound up with him as a con law professor because he has not clue.I mean on the rare occasion I've seen footage or things he wrote regarding the constitution, he was absolutely incorrect as is anyone who pushes the "living constitution" THEORY.Which is nothing more than left wing way to confuse the meaning among those who do not know any better so can have some appearance of legitimacy in their ridiculous policies.

[August]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Or B movie actor, for that matter.

Of the three only the community organizer was without executive experience and it shows.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by August

Of the three only the community organizer was without executive experience and it shows.

And yet we aren't shooting yet. Hmmmmmm..........

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Do you really think a politician like Bush or Obama really governs the USA ?

1. The US is not a democracy in original sense, common people cannot elect directly. As they say it is a 'constitutional republic'. This means rich powerful people influence elections and build up the candidates themselves. No politician is rich and/or powerful himself to pay those fees for entering as a candidate.
Unless Mr. Ford or Rockefeller would have campaigned themselves.
(Which is why i would propose to elect our economical bosses directly, without using politicians as puppets. Spares a lot of money.)

2. The second a politician has been elected, the real powers (economical and those who really know, like e.g. secret services) tell him what's really up, and that is when he can say goodbye to his ideals and campaign pledges (if there was any idealism left). With this new nasty knowledge of what's really going on there is not much leeway to navigate, for the 'president'.

Greetings,
Catfish

edit: P.S. Sorry for taking you seriously

That is a litte too conspiracy theorist for me.

Yes money has corrupted and once someone is in office they owe a lot of favors but they are still powerful.There is a power structure to consider but there is no dark force pulling the strings. A movement and political ideology are elected more than a man, at least lately.

Bush was well meaning but not extremely bright son of a powerful family who managed to get elected.Overwhelmed and not ready for the job, he relied heavily on those he trusted, namely Cheney and Rumsfeld.Unfortunately, the neocons, which are not much better than far left types, maybe a little more inclined toward domestic liberty, less taxes etc but still just about as bad, won his trust.

Obama is a hardcore marxist indoctrinated since he was a child who managed to get some backers knowing a black man who didnt talk like Sharpton or Jackson would have a chance, esp with correct timing, that year was 2008, they knew the ignorant masses would buy him.Yes, the power structure on that side of the aisle joined on his bandwagon, some knowing he was not a good thing but look for their own interest, others were just not aware.Regardless, we have someone more dangerous than ANY individual to ever hold that office.The man's behavior since he took office has shown this.The most disturbing is his utter disregard for the law he shows, esp as it pertains to rights of citizens.The thing EVERYONE should be up in arms over is his use of drones on AMERICAN citizens who the government labels a terrorist. Unfortunately, people let their emotions and bias interfere and say (well he was an arab and a terrorists so to hell with him) but they dont realize the precedent that it has set.

[AVGWarhawk]

Now just hold it. THERE IS NO SANTA!

[AngusJS]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Obama will as always, ignore the constitution and do what he wants, he will ignore congress.

Is that why he went to Congress for approval on Syria, instead of just unilaterally taking action like past presidents have done?

All this is dress rehearsal of course for his attempt to seek a third term.

Will you admit you're completely wrong when he doesn't seek a 3rd term (which, btw, would require an amendment to the Constitution)? Somehow I doubt it.