Confederate flag flies again..

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Armistead

Our big melting pot over here runneth over......

A Yankee was traveling through South Carolina when a car ran into him, wrecking both cars.
Both got out, neither was hurt.
The SC man looked at the Yankee and said
" I'm glad neither of us were hurt, let's have a toast to celebrate"
The Yankee agrees.
The Reb gets a bottle out of the trunk and says "to our good health"
and gives the bottle to the Yank who takes a few swigs.
The Yankee passes the bottle back to the Reb "aren't you gonna take a drink"
"No" says the Reb, I just called the cops.

Musta been moonshine!

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

Musta been moonshine!

I didn't notice that particular piece before. Armistead, that's just evil.

Gotta love it!

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Lincoln had to invade because of cotton, so he fabricated a claim that the South had slaves that were ready to launch within 45 minutes...

Actually he reinforced Ft. Sumpter knowingly forcing the issue (as did FDR desiring the enemy to fire the first shot). He did so as, ever the lawyer, utilizing Andrew Jackson's own secession threat precedent involving South Carolina, ever the hot-bed of the rebellion.

[Sailor Steve]

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I've always said that if Davis and Pickens had just said "Okay, cool, another source of revenue", Lincoln would have been screwed, hoist on his own petard. That would never have happened, though.

What astounds me about the whole "slavery" issue to start with is that the first actual slave in the US - and the institution of slavery itself in America, arise because the very first slaveowner in America was in fact, black. The slave was named John Casor, the slaveowner was named Anthony Johnson.

Casor claimed he was an indentured servant who had been held past the standard 7 years indenture. Johnson successfully sued claiming that he owned Casor "for life".

How many of you actually knew that the first slaveowner in America was in fact, a free black man? More importantly, how many of our children learn that little tidbit in history when they learn about the pure evil of the white, southern racist?

What a load of agenda driven rubbish.
The codification of slavery under the puritans was entered into the books a decade previously in that area, you do not formally legislate for business if the business does not exist.
Slavery in the Carolinas pre dates that by another 120 years, which also has the first slave rebellion in what was to become the US.
Narvaez slaves also in the 1520s were in Florida and Texas before Mexico, so that's more slaves in the US before the "magic" date of "Casor the 1st"
Then I suppose from another angle you have people like Hunt who ran into legal problems before the Casor case, where he ran into problems when selling slaves from America on the European market.
The Dutch brought slaves to NY in 1628, so that predates Casor too. Though their attempted slave sale in Virginia in 1619 ran into problems because someone had baptised the Africans they had.

To go full on though, slavery in what became the US predates the European arrival so it is a rather moot point about who is the first, but to claim that Casor was the first slave in America is clearly not true.