Life and Debt: A Greek Tragedy (merged)

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

That reminds me, I've not seen convoy hunter around for a while - last activity on the 19th but he's not actually posted for many months. Hope he's ok.

He'll be fine...they breed em tough in those parts

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

He'll be fine...they breed em tough in those parts

The Greek people have been through a lot in the last century, they know how to survive, to keep their heads down whilst the rocks are flying.

[Gerald]

Greek finance minister Yannis Stournaras says the three parties in the country's governing coalition have reached a "basic agreement" on the austerity package for 2013-14.

The measures are likely to be presented to Greece's international lenders on Monday before going before parliament.

The cuts are necessary if Greece is to continue receiving bailout funds.

Earlier, Greece announced plans to sell most of its 34% stake in the gaming monopoly Opap.

Mr Stournaras said there were "very few details left to work out" on the austerity package.

The deal comes the day after 50,000 anti-austerity protesters took to the streets of Athens.The spending cuts are reported to be worth at least 11.5bn euros ($14.8bn; £9.1bn) and are a condition for Greece to receive the next 31bn-euro instalment of its international loans.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19744114


Note: Update record, 27 September 2012 Last updated at 11:05 GMT

[Herr-Berbunch]

PM'd CH, he's fine just got a lot of work on.

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

PM'd CH, he's fine just got a lot of work on.

Good,

[soopaman2]

I saw a pic of an officer on the ground on fire, from some jerk off throwing a molotov at him.

Take note of the wrong way to protest.


But being peaceful...This is what you get.



Note how threatening the students are being, I am with you guys, filthy scum had it coming, how dare they protest! America is infallible!

Maybe they should have thrown firebombs too.

[Gerald]

Unfortunately thrown both the one and the other, at certain demonstrations or riots,

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Oberon

The Greek people have been through a lot in the last century, they know how to survive, to keep their heads down whilst the rocks are flying.

Rgr that.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

PM'd CH, he's fine just got a lot of work on.

Told ya so

[the_tyrant]

What the hell can the protesters expect?

Their country has NO MORE money, how the hell can they expect welfare, pensions, etc when there is NO MORE money?

Protesting just increases police spending, further decreasing the amount of money the government has

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by the_tyrant

What the hell can the protesters expect?

Their country has NO MORE money, how the hell can they expect welfare, pensions, etc when there is NO MORE money?

Protesting just increases police spending, further decreasing the amount of money the government has

A bit of a vicious circle and nobody has an answer that will be welcomed by either side.

[soopaman2]

Telling people to "take thier medicine" when most of those people (just like most other people in the world) have no choice on the poisons their government fed them leading up to this, is unfair.

This makes it hard to justify the reaction.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/02/wo...oc.semityn.www

In the wealthy, northern suburbs of this city, where summer temperatures often hit the high 90s, just 324 residents checked the box on their tax returns admitting that they owned pools.
So tax investigators studied satellite photos of the area ***8212; a sprawling collection of expensive villas tucked behind tall gates ***8212; and came back with a decidedly different number: 16,974 pools.

Sadly it is the poor of Greece paying the price, not the pool tax evaders.

But being promised something, then having it taken, because your government stole it...

We can all identify with that.

[Jimbuna]

I remember looking on a site somewhere that showed ariel shots of pools and extent some people go to camouflage them....ingeneous, if I come across it again I'll post a link.

[Gerald]

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/59842...ax-dodges.html

[Jimbuna]

Don't remember it being YouTube but it also linked there: