A new war has broken out: Russia (again) merged

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Happy Times

Of course i am but we still have it better than you with half of Turkey living there.:p

It isnt russification in quotes only, it has a long history everywhere russian imperialims has touched. It is also very much a present day threat with many nationalities being persecuted in Russia today, many of them related to Finns and Estonians. Many peoples have practically ceased to excist because of russification, some cases are comparable to the holocaust and infact jews have been also targeted by it also.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification

A question for you Finns. How did you guys manage to keep Russian out of you language after being Russified for all those years?

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

A question for you Finns. How did you guys manage to keep Russian out of you language after being Russified for all those years?

Simple answer: Sisu.

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

A question for you Finns. How did you guys manage to keep Russian out of you language after being Russified for all those years?

Well as soon as they started it we shot the Russian governor-general i Finland, then we shipped weapons from Japan who where happy to help as the Russo-Japanese War was going on, though that plan failed. Next we sent volunteers in Germany for military training 1914 and 1918 we started shooting at them, continued shooting 1939-1944.
Its the only thing we have found has an effect.:p

edit. Ofcourse before this almost 1000 years of fighting of and on, but thats the "resent" history..

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Simple answer: Sisu.

I was going to guess perkele

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I was going to guess perkele

Lol, that too, but mainly 'Sisu' which pretty much is stubborness, patriotism and courage in one word.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Lol, that too, but mainly 'Sisu' which pretty much is stubborness, patriotism and courage in one word.

Yeah, I looked it up. Now I know 2 Finnish words.

[JHuschke]

Russia will win, hopefully U.S. won't get involved and try to please the world. We need a new president. Someday..I will work towards it..vote me then!

[Swedish_Submarine]

I think it is obvious that Russia is not in Georgia to help the "poor opressed minorities" and more interested in own interests in the region.....

[Skybird]

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...571079,00.html

[1480]

Found this neat little op ed from the wall street journal, the link is below and it's only 8 paragraphs long:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1218...s_opinion_main


My little opinion of this whole fiasco: my causicoid cousins ain't too right in the head. They all need to be b*tch slapped back to their respective sides of the border. Is this a premeditated invasion of a sovereign nation? I'm not on an Oxford fellowship in international relations, but common sense says why did the ruskies have that much man power and equipment so close to border in the first place, unless they were ready to A. defend itself from invasion by Georgian forces or B. they planned on rolling in.

Looking at contention A, which has been posited by some, just does not make much sense. A smaller country, lesser military and with much more to lose attempts to start a war it knows it cannot win. They would win this year's Darwin award, hands down. I may think very little of mankind, but craziness of this magnitude, in this day and age, I find hard to swallow.

B. on the other hand, throw a team or two of spetznatz across the border, have them attack S. O. in the middle of the night to reduce casualties, make off like a bandit and now you have a reason to "liberate" the area. You blame the Georgians for the actual aggression, and now have a "reason" to come down and protect your peeps. Ivan looks good in the ever popular, court of opinion.

My question to one and all who believe that the Georgians started this whole mongolian cluster f%ck is, if the russians are just trying to defend itself and it's remote "citizens" why are they using strategic bombers to take out targets in Georgia that are no where near the area of conflict?

[baggygreen]

You won't get an answer that is satisfactory 1480.

To be honest, im surprised skybird and ant are taking the line they are, sky in particular. But, reading sky's links explains the POV that they're reading, and so what they believe.

I'm probably just more cynical, but like you said, why did the russians target strategic centres at the other end of the country, for example poti - S.O. is landlocked, the georgian navy isnt gonna do much good with it! The only reason that makes sense is that the russians are coming.

and why? because of that big ol' pipe line in the south.

As an aside, my fiancee asked me today after hearing it on the news, if i was going to have to go away. I laughed and told her not unless austraya moved to europe!

[1480]

baggygreen, :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: that whole post was priceless. I'm glad there are still independent thinkers out there who do not kow tow to media slant. I thought we had it bad with CNN here in the States, but Speigel makes them look like the Far Right in comparison.


For all of the countries that could see through the morass of lies spewed by Russia and stood up to condemn their actions, I salute you!

[Skybird]

Nice attempts, guys, but I don't take your baits. You wonder about the political splinters in the eyes of others - but you do not realise the ideological beams in your own.

[heartc]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Nice attempts, guys, but I don't take your baits. You wonder about the political splinters in the eyes of others - but you do not realise the ideological beams in your own.

You make me sick.

[1480]

SB, just curious but what is your thought about America invading Iraq and Afghanistan? Then I will be able to answer your assertion a little bit better.