[REL] Manual targeting Ship Centered, Accuracy Fix

[DrBeast]

'k, cheers! I'll integrate your changes to the camera file I'm using, then.

[Meridian]

Originally Posted by CapnScurvy

Yep, WernerSobe had a problem with the scope at rest, showing a partical black box over the lens, allowing some of the background view to show on the sides. The view in the scope now "disappears" as it goes to rest.

How can I apply that fix to the SCAF-TM-RSRD version I am currently using?

Thanks

[CapnScurvy]

Originally Posted by DrBeast

I'll integrate your changes to the camera file I'm using, then.

Ok, so you know, you need to keep the SCAF menu_1024_768.ini file intact. Keep it from getting changed by another, later activated mod. The SCAF "Menu_1024........" file has the correct lens and background parameters for the problem we just talked about.

Cheers

[DrBeast]

Ah, 'k...thanks for the heads-up. I'll scan through that, too, to incorporate the changes to my .ini file.

[CapnScurvy]

Originally Posted by Meridian

How can I apply that fix to the SCAF-TM-RSRD version I am currently using?

Thanks

I'm going to release a new SCAF edition for TM 1.7.6 soon, with the changes I've made to the SCAF stock edition which will include the Maxoptics2 option. I'll of course keep most of the TM look, since it contains the same modded dials or guages that OakGrove created. I will check all ships for accuracy and change the files accordingly, as I did for the latest SCAF stock SH4 and Real Fleet Boat mods. I'll probably do the TM first, then the RSRDC version. I'm really not sure when will the smoke settle over RSRDC's patching and changes. A couple of replies ago, I addressed my concern over when will a finished product appear. I'm just not ready to keep track of the changing news on a per day basis. With a change here or a tweak there, I don't wish to follow every move to keep up.

[Paajtor]

Originally Posted by CapnScurvy

I'm going to look at the ROW Camera file today and see if there is a way of merging the two together, off hand I'd say yes, no problem. I believe they both change different parameters within the same file, so it's an easy merge needed to have them compatible. However, I see there are 4 to choose from. A couple with SWAY, a couple without?!!? Look there may be others, hidden within one of the other ROW mod versions. I will say this though, if I've got to make 4 plus compatible versions to keep everyone happy, I won't. You may just have to keep your SWAY and forget the ability of making good visual contact with the Stadimeter for accurate manual range finding. The choice may end up being yours!! By the way, there's a version ".2whatever" for all the row camera mods too. You said you'r using ".1a". Is there a difference, that you like the older version better? What I may do is go to FileFront and see which camera mod is downloaded the most. I'll make a compatible Maxoptics2 version for it.

I just checked the ROW-thread again, and it seems that I have the 2a version...but if you click on the download-link, you go to a 1a version

....or to a 2a-version, but with the wrong file name lol.

[CapnScurvy]

Originally Posted by Paajtor

Great...gonna try it now.

Btw, the previous version gave me an error (plus CTD), when trying to open the Pacific Museum.

Paajtor, as I suspected, there is NO problem with the Museum running the SCAF 1.2 stock SH4 version. All ships and catagories are accounted for. I ran through most every object without a hitch. The same SCAF files are in the other compatible SCAF editions for TM, RSRDC or RFB. So I should believe my part is good to go. As I believe, one of their files has a wire crossed causing the Museum to CTD with an error. Sorry for not being able to help with their problem.

[CapnScurvy]

Originally Posted by Paajtor

I just checked the ROW-thread again, and it seems that I have the 2a version...but if you click on the download-link, you go to a 1a version

....or to a 2a-version, but with the wrong file name lol.

Yes, I saw this 1.a, 2.a thing as well, so I guess the latest is the 1.a. I checked the number of downloads since the ROW camera mods hit their Nov. '07 release, and the one you use is by far the greater downloaded version. Almost 2 to 1 over .c or .d. Nearly 75% greater than 2.b, so I think I'll take a look at merging Maxoptics2 with the ROW Camera 1.a version that you use and come up with a compatible fit for it.

I have one question for you about the Pacific Environment mod that Kriller2 recently released. The instructions say you should "have ROW downloaded before installing PE". What, or which part of "ROW" is he talking about? There's all sorts of "ROW" parts and pieces!!! I just looked through ROW's thread and I couldn't get much of an answer on what exactly needs to be loaded before the PE mod. Any Help!!!??

[Paajtor]

Capn, don't bother to much about the Museum-thingy...as I said, I don't use it very often, and if I'm the only one with a problem, then please leave it.
Anyway, thx for checking, also for the camera-thing!
I got SH4 1 week ago, and I'm doing my best to find a safe way to mod my game...but it means, that there's a good chance I screwed up somewhere.

About PE....you mean this part?:

These mods are included in this addon, so you don't have to install those before installing this mod.

ROW sky and water controls
ROW New sea foam by Jaketoox
ROW clouds.
JakeTooxs Water Edgde mod

I think he means, that from all the different ROW-parts that you can download (and install before you add PE), you don't have to get the 4 parts quoted above, as they're in the PE-mod already.

Here's my mod list...the text in bold is a reminder for myself, that I added to the filename:

ROW Textures without Sun Halo camera flair vs_5
ROW Sub Reflections and Roll Pitch Mod vs_5
ROW Special Effects with stock zones vs_5b
ROW Sound Effects vs_8
ROW Object Reflections and Search Lights vs_5b
ROW Camera vs_1a
Pacific enviroment for ROW
Addon for Reflections On The Water_MustBeLastEnabledModForRow
Remove grain effect
RFB_1.4_for_ROW_RC1
RSRDC_P3_RFB_v340
RSRDC_V340_Patch2
Neal Stevens Anniversary Chrono Rose
ContactTails
SI INTERIOR Kit
DialsGatoCT_Fix_14
SCAF1.2_RFB1.4_STKorROW
RSRDC_Metric_Nomograph
CompassHeading
SI Sonar Metric Scale Kit

[silent killer]

Thanksfor your work,have dl the mod this afternoon will try tonight

[CapnScurvy]

Originally Posted by Paajtor

Capn, don't bother to much about the Museum-thingy...as I said, I don't use it very often, and if I'm the only one with a problem, then please leave it.
Anyway, thx for checking, also for the camera-thing!
I got SH4 1 week ago, and I'm doing my best to find a safe way to mod my game...but it means, that there's a good chance I screwed up somewhere.

About PE....you mean this part?:

I think he means, that from all the different ROW-parts that you can download (and install before you add PE), you don't have to get the 4 parts quoted above, as they're in the PE-mod already.

Here's my mod list...the text in bold is a reminder for myself, that I added to the filename:

ROW Textures without Sun Halo camera flair vs_5
ROW Sub Reflections and Roll Pitch Mod vs_5
ROW Special Effects with stock zones vs_5b
ROW Sound Effects vs_8
ROW Object Reflections and Search Lights vs_5b
ROW Camera vs_1a
Pacific enviroment for ROW
Addon for Reflections On The Water_MustBeLastEnabledModForRow
Remove grain effect
RFB_1.4_for_ROW_RC1
RSRDC_P3_RFB_v340
RSRDC_V340_Patch2
Neal Stevens Anniversary Chrono Rose
ContactTails
SI INTERIOR Kit
DialsGatoCT_Fix_14
SCAF1.2_RFB1.4_STKorROW
RSRDC_Metric_Nomograph
CompassHeading
SI Sonar Metric Scale Kit

Thanks Paajtor, for getting back to me on the question of what Kriller2 means about having ROW installed before his Pacific Environment mod. I think I will try what you've done and go from there. OH, by the way, Welcome to SH4!!

One question about your list above, is this the order you load these mods in JSGME? I don't see anything wrong with the order, but I'm not really familar with all the mods you have listed. BUT, is this correct, >>> that your using the version of "SCAF1.2_RFB1.4_STKorROW"? If it is, you need to use the edition of SCAF that works with RFB AND RSRDC. The "SCAF1.2_RFB1.4_STKorROW" is to be used with only Real Fleet Boat v1.4 that is either for the STOCK edition of SH4 OR the additions of the RFB with ROW parts. IT IS NOT FOR USE WHEN YOU ADD THE RUN SILENT, RUN DEEP FOR RFB 1.4 v340. I have another edition for that combination.

You see, RFB 1.4 does not add new ships to the stock SH4 game. My SCAF mod above (for RFB stock or row) will work just fine with it. BUT, when you throw in RSRDC, this mod adds over a dozen new ships to the mix. My above mod will cause all kinds of problems because the new ships are not covered. Download the correct edition of "SCAF_4_RSRDC_RFB_v340" and your problems may be corrected!!

I know your probably saying, "there's too many different choices to choose from!!"
Yes sir, you've got that right!!! That's one reason I'm a bit skeptical about creating too many versions of Maxoptics2 compatibale with the ROW Camera.dat mods. With 4 different ones to use, that's 4 different ways of getting mixed up in which one is the right one to activate.

Cheers

[Paajtor]

I see....:hmm:
Thank you for claring this up.

Yep, that's the JSGME-order of installing the mods.
I just studied the list again, and I think there's room for improvement...plus SCAF_4_RSRDC_RFB_v340, of course. How could I miss that version?...you're right, it's all rather confusing, if you're new to the matter (but not new to modding SH, fortunately!).

It's still a bit early for it, but my guess is, that in 1 year time, we will have a few big supermods (à la GWX/NYGM/WAC, for SH3), which will make choosing and installing much easier...and modders will have less troubles keeping everything compatible.

I'm going to do a freshly modded SH4-install now, and get the other SCAF-file (I have a spare fully patched SH4-folder saved somewhere).

*edit* Couldn't find SCAF_4_RSRDC_RFB_v340 on your FF-account....but I guessed I needed SCAF4RSRDC_P2_RFB_v241.rar, so I downloaded that one.

[CapnScurvy]

Originally Posted by Paajtor

Couldn't find SCAF_4_RSRDC_RFB_v340 on your FF-account....but I guessed I needed SCAF4RSRDC_P2_RFB_v241.rar, so I downloaded that one.

OOP'S, your right!!! I haven't released the v340 yet!!! Since there have been three patches to RSRDC P3, I've been draging my feet on releasing my latest version. I'm looking to see what changes Lurker_hlb3 makes next.

Yes, the SCAF version v241 (above) will do for now when using the combination of RFB and RSRDC. This stuff is getting too deep for me too!!!

[Paajtor]

I am glad to report, that everything works fine, including the Museum.
Even with this "outdated" SCAF-version.

The only thing I had to change, was my metric nomograph again...this SCAF puts the Imperial one in the \Layout folder (see this post).

Thank you, for your support.

This is my current mod-order:

ROW Textures without Sun Halo camera flair vs_5
ROW Sub Reflections and Roll Pitch Mod vs_5
ROW Special Effects with stock zones vs_5b
ROW Sound Effects vs_8
ROW Object Reflections and Search Lights vs_5b
ROW Camera vs_1a
Pacific enviroment for ROW
Addon for Reflections On The Water_MustBeLastEnabledModForRow
Remove grain effect
RFB_1.4_for_ROW_RC1
RSRDC_P3_RFB_v340
RSRDC_V340_Patch2
SCAF4RSRDC_P2_RFB_v241
SI INTERIOR Kit
SI Sonar Metric Scale Kit
DialsGatoCT_Fix_14
ContactTails
CompassHeading
Neal Stevens Anniversary Chrono Rose
RSRDC_Metric_Nomograph

[Lopo]

@CapnScurvy

Can you tell us if SCAF1.2 for TM1.7.6 will work with the new release of TMO (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6421019045/m/1191029895)...

Thanks a lot

Lopo