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05-13-10, 03:09 AM | #121 |
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05-13-10, 03:15 AM | #122 |
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Nope, that's just the post title.
Carefull with combining this with v1.2 of the game (latest patch). Haven't had a chance to verify proper compatibility yet.
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05-13-10, 04:07 AM | #123 |
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05-13-10, 05:58 AM | #124 |
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Occasionally.
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05-15-10, 12:54 AM | #125 |
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Hmmm since patch 1.2 somethign seams off. I think ships have become a little to easy to sink... i am not sure
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05-15-10, 05:13 AM | #126 |
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Latest version of BRF and it's stand-alone modules "BRF HP Balance" and "Damage Assessment" confirmed 100% compatible with SH5 1.2.
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05-15-10, 02:05 PM | #127 |
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05-16-10, 08:58 AM | #128 |
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I really appreciate all the hard work done here. This looks to be a great start. Obviously we all understand that things such as torpedo damage and shell damage etc get upgraded via crew abilities by in some cases a significant degree e.g. deck gun damage gets a 70% additional benefit etc thus I am sure you are already taking into account the average of the upgrades e.g. finding a middle ground. Unlike Sh3 where things were set at set damage levels etc, Sh5 does have a varying randomiser in play. Lets say I fully upgraed my deckgun crew ability in line with stock = 70% increase in damage. Lets also say, I am in battlestations mode, = additional 30% added to the passive ability, I think you get the picture. In one sence this is absolutely great e.g. no more fixed number science = a more dynamic game. In the other sence, this will make your work slightly more difficult or easy dependant on how you approach it. Just some thoughts aloud. Hope it helps
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05-16-10, 10:11 AM | #129 |
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Well, it's balanced to stock values, to be honest. Personally, I think abilities that raise damage are outright BS, so I simply refuse to spend points in such abilities (actually making the whole system rather redundant ). Also, you don't have points to spend in single missions and multiplayer, though I don't know if that's necessary (might be controlled by crew skill setting in mission editor).
Considering that damage gets amplified with the skills and ships already sink a heck of a lot easier, I'm amazed that people actually combine it with "critical hits torpedo" mod; seems like it just becomes a shooting gallery to me, but whatever floats yer boat. Nice thing about mods: you can make the game the way you like it. Was thinking of reworking damage values for better effect in the next version. One thing puzzles me though: you say it's a great start. Is there anything you feel needs improving? Any suggestions and feedback are more than welcome, as always.
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05-16-10, 10:52 AM | #130 |
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No I think it is fantastic what you are doing.
Like you, I think a lot of the special abilities are way way too beefed up however possibly unlike you, I also see them as a method to add some form of variety / randomness in the game. A privilliage we did not have with SH3 thus sinking ships starting to become a matter of maths. As you say, it iss a matter of personal preference and persons will no doubt tweak to suit and so they should. It would just be impossible for you to find the perfect balance for all playing styles in the game. Some people will stick with default abilities and max them out and others may not. What I was possibly suggesting, was if you should take a peek at the special abilites file, you will be able to figure out a mean average of additional damage % and modifiers and you or someone else could work on a average number which should then provide a damage model that may suit more people whether or not using special abilities. At the same time, I am very much appreciating that what you are doing takes much more time and effort to develop than it would for others to adjust, their playing styles or mod choices / tweaks. I just raise the points mainly for other people to be mindful about so they do not fall into the trap of getting you mod, using another damage enabling mod, upscaling all thier special abilities and then thinking WTH, this is too overpowered so it must be your mods fault when in fact it is not. I really look forward to you future work in this area.
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05-16-10, 11:55 AM | #131 |
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On the short term, I think Ill have a look at the torpedo radius and normalize the damage a bit. With less variable damage (it really varies a lot) the effect is a little more predictable, and by increasing the radius it affects more compartments (at least potentially). With torpedoes more likely to puncture 2 or even 3 compartments, I can back off the flotation settings a bit, which imho are rather extreme in some cases (can be as much as 5 times higher than stock).
Should result in more spread-out damage, and a more natural look. More widespread damage to make it sink more naturally, compared to focused and exaggerated damage. Should also make for listing and possibly capsizing to appear, either naturally or with a little more tweaking. Nice work on the crew balancing btw, imho changes like that are essential to a better and more realistic/balanced game.
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05-18-10, 10:04 AM | #132 |
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so, any progress on getting ships to capsize? not that i'm trying to hurry you ar anything..
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05-18-10, 01:12 PM | #133 |
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Not much, think I'll need to tweak the torpedoes a little first.
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06-03-10, 01:15 PM | #134 |
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Arclight: Would you consent to this being put into part of a larger Compilation mod, as i said in another thread on this forum?
I'm looking to assemble several mods in a large easy for new people to install "Community Mod pack", and full, prominent credit would be given to you and the other mod authors involved. Would you be willing to help the community by allowing your mod to be used? |
06-03-10, 08:02 PM | #135 |
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"help the community"... jeesh, no need for a sales pitch, wouldn't have bothered if it was just for my own enjoyment.
So yeah, include away.
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