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10-22-14, 10:50 PM | #121 |
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There were several stories about Akulas penetrative towards the US East coast, though considering that SOSUS (and other such sonar systems to cover the GIUK gap) is dead it is not very surprising.
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10-23-14, 01:54 AM | #122 | |
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10-23-14, 01:58 AM | #123 |
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Well NATO got rid of its sonar assets in North Atlantic. So it is now easier to penetrative GIUK gap (even though it was quite possible back in the day - Aport and Atrina with Victor III subs come to mind).
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10-23-14, 02:43 AM | #124 |
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Media seems to have lost interest now. No more live reporting or even updates to existing stories. Everything went quiet after the anchores ships set sail again yesterday afternoon. If anything is actually down there, the crew really knows what they are doing, so kudos to them. Sure, there have been sightings, but the timing of them (daylight) and positions (away feom any search area seem weird. It's either just cognitive bias from the observers or the crew of the submersible either were forced up for endurance purposes or wanted to be spotted (power projection etc.). Now I cincerely doubt we'll ever get any answers.
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10-23-14, 04:20 PM | #125 |
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I have no idea how reliable RT is, but this popped up (17:06):
http://rt.com/news/line/2014-10-23/#73328
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10-24-14, 11:41 AM | #126 |
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RT is not reliable at all. It's basically Putin's pet propaganda channel. They've had Alex Jones (of Loose Change fame) on as an expert, which really says something .
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10-24-14, 12:02 PM | #127 | |
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Anyways, search is called off. This image was published earlier today: http://www.svd.se/Bilder/Artikelbild...?1414146481000 Might be some very late algae blooming or and underwater outlet pipe, but the taxi boat captain that took it said he'd never seen anything quite like it. It looked like the bottom silt suddenly got disturbed for some reason.
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10-24-14, 12:48 PM | #128 |
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10-24-14, 03:02 PM | #129 |
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I'm ashame as a Swede if this is true
It's in german hope there are some german here that could give an English explanation http://www.focus.de/politik/ausland/...d_4224190.html Markus |
10-25-14, 11:52 AM | #130 |
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Watching a documentary (in Scandinavian) right now about U-137, the sub that ran aground in Swedish waters. Chilling stuff, especially the part about it carrying torpedoes with nuclear warheads.
http://tv.nrk.no/program/KOID3700001...-137-paa-grunn Don't know how I feel about the Swedish navy ending the operation. Guess in a way I'm mostly relieved nothing serious happened. We live in interesting times, as they say.
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10-26-14, 06:44 AM | #132 |
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The other side of the coin could be that this phenomena will be viewed by some as a failure on the part of the Swedish navy.
I wonder if more funding/attention will be given to the navy in the future.
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10-26-14, 03:36 PM | #134 |
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I very much doubt it was a deliberate effort to up the budget. Obviously impossible to say, but it is now glaringly obvious we need our coastal defence back. Not massively so, but enough to at least have a basic search and subdue capability along our very long coast.
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10-26-14, 05:14 PM | #135 | |
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If my german understanding of the article is correct and it is correct what it says in the article I'm ashame. I do hope that it ain't true. Markus |
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