US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Ostfriese]

You would care if Kilmar didn't have brown skin.

[August]

Originally Posted by VipertheSniper

...the subject of the case is an illegal immigrant

End of story right there. Every one of them ought to be sent back to wherever they came from.

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by Ostfriese

You would care if Kilmar didn't have brown skin.

I''m getting so tired of your racist comments and propaganda. I''m sure most everyone else in the U.S feels like I do. Your time and efforts would be much better spent with fixing your own Country's problems. We all know you have enough of them.

Originally Posted by August

They don't care. Chronic Trump Derangement Syndrome makes them ignore such distinctions. He's an illegal alien whom US courts have twice ordered to be deported. Whether he has gang ties or not, and it sure looks like he does, he should have been kicked out of this country long ago.

Originally Posted by August

End of story right there. Every one of them ought to be sent back to wherever they came from.

That's the basis for the argument in and of itself. AVG Warhawk made some valid points as well.The vast majority of the Electorate of America voted. We want these criminals and those who do nothing but overwhelm our Country, It's Schools and Health Systems out of here. We couldn't care less what the rest of the Liberal World Thinks. We run this Country, not you. Worry about your own Countries in Europe and what you will do without the U.S propping you up. It seems the only ones in Europe that understand these Issues are the U.K and France.

[ET2SN]

Remember, it isn't a problem until its YOUR turn.

[VipertheSniper]

if this admin didn't have such a raging boner to put their cruelty towards illegal immigrants on full display to intimidate other migrants, none of this would've happened though.
Had they followed the TRO by Boasberg and called the planes back, they would've gotten the TRO overturned on appeal, the due process rights of the incarcerated to challenge their deportation under the Aliens Enemies Act would've been established. That Abrego Garcia was not to be deported to El Salvador would've surely come up. Maybe he would've been deported somewhere else, but he wouldn't be in a camp in country where he was not supposed to be sent.

Instead now you have the executive branch thumbing their noses at SCOTUS.

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by VipertheSniper

if this admin didn't have such a raging boner to put their cruelty towards illegal immigrants on full display to intimidate other migrants, none of this would've happened though.
Had they followed the TRO by Boas berg and called the planes back, they would've gotten the TRO overturned on appeal, the due process rights of the incarcerated to challenge their deportation under the Aliens Enemies Act would've been established. That Abrego Garcia was not to be deported to El Salvador would've surely come up. Maybe he would've been deported somewhere else, but he wouldn't be in a camp in country where he was not supposed to be sent.

Instead now you have the executive branch thumbing their noses at SCOTUS.

Watch your language. Where do you come up with Cruelty ? You said it yourself, they are here in the U.S Illegally. We don't want them here. End of Story. These Illegals were never vetted. It's simple, we in the U.S REFUSE to be financially responsible for them. Further, they have no respect for our Country or it's laws but they want to here to rape and victimize our people. Garcia is from El Salvador and he is back where he belongs. Further, Garcia is a criminal and piece of garbage gang member. Since he is in the U.S Illegally, he has little to no rights here. End of story.

As far as Liberal Judge Boasberg, you need to learn we have three branches of Government. Legislative, Judicial and Executive. Trump represents the Executive branch of the U.S Government. Trump is responsible for formulating policies to protect this Country. Trump is doing what WE elected him to do. Boasberg does not formulate our foreign and domestic policies and needs to learn his place - and limitations. Further, Boasberg has no authority over a sovereign Country like El Salvador and it's indigenous citizens.

If you like them so much, we can arrange to ship them to you and they can then destroy your Country.

[AVGWarhawk]

Sigh ....



"The report details the traffic stop encounter that led law enforcement officers to suspect Abrego Garcia of involvement in human trafficking. The documents also reveal that law enforcement confirmed Abrego Garcia to be a Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13) gang member. "

Picked up by the cops 3 times or possibly more. He is here making trouble and being even less of a good citizen and dad that is claimed.


https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/04/18/...uspected-human

[Dargo]

France has overtaken Germany as Europe’s top destination for asylum seekers. During the first quarter of 2025, France registered more than 40,000 applications, just above Spain (39,318) and Germany (37,387). The truth is that Britain and France are both seen as soft touches by the migrants and the gangs who smuggle them into their countries. Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Italy have all shown that with determination and a coherent plan it is possible to reduce illegal immigration and asylum applications.

Instead of following the example of Denmark, the governments of Britain and France cobble together agreements that are rarely worth the paper they’re written on. In March 2023, Rishi Sunak and Macron met in Paris and, amid much fanfare, announced an ‘entente’ that would put an end to the scourge of small boats crossing the Channel. The scheme involved Britain handing France £480 million. Nearly 9,000 migrants have crossed the Channel in small boats this year, a 42 % increase on the same period in 2024. Perhaps Britain should ask Macron for its money back.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by VipertheSniper

if this admin didn't have such a raging boner to put their cruelty towards illegal immigrants on full display to intimidate other migrants, none of this would've happened though.
Had they followed the TRO by Boasberg and called the planes back, they would've gotten the TRO overturned on appeal, the due process rights of the incarcerated to challenge their deportation under the Aliens Enemies Act would've been established. That Abrego Garcia was not to be deported to El Salvador would've surely come up. Maybe he would've been deported somewhere else, but he wouldn't be in a camp in country where he was not supposed to be sent.

Instead now you have the executive branch thumbing their noses at SCOTUS.

Much better keeping are heads in the sand. What cruelty do you want to discuss?

ICE arrests 171 noncitizens with pending charges or convictions for murder, homicide or assault against children during nation-wide law enforcement effort. This was in the last 12 months. The list goes on.

Rachel Morin, raped and killed by an illegal immigrant. Charged and convicted this week. Would you like to discuss the cruelty to her 5 children? Her murder was ignored by Von Hollen who has a boner for a criminal.

Stop with the victim mentality. It does not sit well with families of murdered, raped and beaten by illegal immigrants.

[August]

Originally Posted by VipertheSniper

...but he wouldn't be in a camp in country where he was not supposed to be sent.

His own country which he should have been sent back to long ago.

[Skybird]

America is a very strong trading power - but not as strong as it thinks it is. And it is absolutely not invincible for China.

Similarly, America is also a very strong military power, the strongest in the world. But here, too, it is not as strong as it thinks it is. Above all, people in America do not currently understand what makes America strong: namely a network of allies that provide bases for operations and logistics hubs globally, to an extent that neither Russia nor China can boast. The disadvantage is that the American armed forces cover the entire planet and are therefore overstretched due to this large playing field.

Trump hasn't got a clue about any of this. To be clear, I think driving the tariffs up to make Chia pay for its constant violation of copyright protection and unfair trade practices is okay, I follow until here: confronting Chinas we should. But not in this dilletantic and self-damaging fashion! He is messing with China, although China is much better prepared financially than the USA is, and at the same time he is pissing off trading partners and allies, and driving both China and former allies towards each other. The trade conflict with China also has the potential to devolve into a hot war, in which Wahsington has only the opportunity to drive the price of China's victory and eventual conquest or destruction of Taiwan without being able to realistically demonstrate how they think they can win such a war. And as a side-effect, Trump destroys the global role of the dollar, one of America's most valuable strategic weapons. As a result, we currently see the biggest exodus of money from the US I have ever red or heard of. Capital currently flees from America. In unimaginable amounts.

In other words, everything Trump tackles - fails, and weakens America, and does the opposite of what he claims.

Idiot. Probably the biggest political idiot since - well, since a damn very long time anyway.

https://www-faz-net.translate.goog/a..._x_tr_pto=wapp

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by Skybird

America is a very strong trading power - but not as strong as it thinks it is. And it is absolutely not invincible for China.

Similarly, America is also a very strong military power, the strongest in the world. But here, too, it is not as strong as it thinks it is. Above all, people in America do not currently understand what makes America strong: namely a network of allies that provide bases for operations and logistics hubs globally, to an extent that neither Russia nor China can boast. The disadvantage is that the American armed forces cover the entire planet and are therefore overstretched due to this large playing field.

Trump hasn't got a clue about any of this. To be clear, I think driving the tariffs up to make Chia pay for its constant violation of copyright protection and unfair trade practices is okay, I follow until here: confronting Chinas we should. But not in this dilletantic and self-damaging fashion! He is messing with China, although China is much better prepared financially than the USA is, and at the same time he is pissing off trading partners and allies, and driving both China and former allies towards each other. The trade conflict with China also has the potential to devolve into a hot war, in which Wahsington has only the opportunity to drive the price of China's victory and eventual conquest or destruction of Taiwan without being able to realistically demonstrate how they think they can win such a war. And as a side-effect, Trump destroys the global role of the dollar, one of America's most valuable strategic weapons. As a result, we currently see the biggest exodus of money from the US I have ever red or heard of. Capital currently flees from America. In unimaginable amounts.

In other words, everything Trump tackles - fails, and weakens America, and does the opposite of what he claims.

Idiot. Probably the biggest political idiot since - well, since a damn very long time anyway.

https://www-faz-net.translate.goog/a..._x_tr_pto=wapp

I,disagree for 1 The United States is not the Power House it was. In the day's long ago and your welcome to figure it out. In 2025 The United States, is a country in evolution within itself. Will it emerge as a Republic or a Fascist, Socialist hybrid? Inline with the World's Elite. If you think Donald Trump doesn't have a clue. He knows these people for what the are and what they want to do.

Donald Trump at some point in his life he decided he didn't want their future for the United States and this Planet.He left the Global Country Club and they have been trying to kill him every since he said No.

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by Skybird

America is a very strong trading power - but not as strong as it thinks it is. And it is absolutely not invincible for China.

Similarly, America is also a very strong military power, the strongest in the world. But here, too, it is not as strong as it thinks it is. Above all, people in America do not currently understand what makes America strong: namely a network of allies that provide bases for operations and logistics hubs globally, to an extent that neither Russia nor China can boast. The disadvantage is that the American armed forces cover the entire planet and are therefore overstretched due to this large playing field.

Trump hasn't got a clue about any of this. To be clear, I think driving the tariffs up to make Chia pay for its constant violation of copyright protection and unfair trade practices is okay, I follow until here: confronting Chinas we should. But not in this dilletantic and self-damaging fashion! He is messing with China, although China is much better prepared financially than the USA is, and at the same time he is pissing off trading partners and allies, and driving both China and former allies towards each other. The trade conflict with China also has the potential to devolve into a hot war, in which Wahsington has only the opportunity to drive the price of China's victory and eventual conquest or destruction of Taiwan without being able to realistically demonstrate how they think they can win such a war. And as a side-effect, Trump destroys the global role of the dollar, one of America's most valuable strategic weapons. As a result, we currently see the biggest exodus of money from the US I have ever red or heard of. Capital currently flees from America. In unimaginable amounts.

In other words, everything Trump tackles - fails, and weakens America, and does the opposite of what he claims.

Idiot. Probably the biggest political idiot since - well, since a damn very long time anyway.

https://www-faz-net.translate.goog/a..._x_tr_pto=wapp

Diversity makes America Strong...Just as Diversity makes Germany Strong.Just as the UK and The French Right ? We have Armies of Diversity willing to die for Democracy. Hell here in America they tried to set up a Diversity for the Ukraine Legion, BLM, Antifa,Feminist, Pedos,Tranny's , Homeless, Out of work actors, and the illegals on the promise of citizenship. And guess what ? Nobody showed up for Diversity for Ukraine. WTF? Oh by the way if China wants Taiwan, We will not see any Diversity ships. How many NATO Surface Ships will be in the Battle ? The Americans lost 2 Submarines worth millions, Running into undersea mountains they didn't know about . Even though they have been in those waters since WW2.

[Skybird]

Eh - pardon, what...?
I sdaid that the US are economically and militarily strong, but that oin both areas it overestimates iotself, and is not as strong as it thinks it is. And that maybe it is not a clever idea if you depend on somebody for cooperaiton or elemntal supply to piss this somebody of, while you additionall piss off your former allies. Trumpo had to row back severla times alrerady, seems to have been caught compeltely ont he wrog foot abotu the stock markets reacitons to his tariff games. Money is fleeing from the Us currentlyx. Not just a bit money. Very big major capital players. Trust has been destroyed, and it will not come back neither quick nor easily. A few comaonies move to the US, yes, but many more stopped their investments, or started to move out.


Your country is no trustworthy and reliable partner anymore. That simplke it is. And I do not even mention foriegnpltical extravaganzas like Trump's love and support for Putin's war goals and Trump's hate on Ukraine because he hates Zelenskyi for personal reasons. Five Eyes has practically thrown the US out...! The other four nations said they do not trust the US services anymore to keep sensitive information secret and not giving them carelessly or intentionally away. The cooperaiton of Four Eyes with the US currently is only on very low level where damages applied by the US would be more or less not too critical. Thats a very substantial vote of no confidence, I would think - the US is (beside the UK) one of the two founding fathers of the later Five Eyes.


You country under Trump has chosen its new role - that of the villains. Live with your new reputation. Its ruined. During the rest of my life time, and beyond I assume, nobody will ever trust you again. If you flip oages back to the time of the Iraq 03 war, you will see that I preicted, mpre or less, the US turning this way sooner or later, what remains to eb seen is how striog the influence of the Christian radicals will still become in the new political order. So far, Trump opportunistically manipulated them, but in the background they are growing. And I am not so certai n at all that Trump still is master in his house of cards for sure,I think he is under growing spell of influencers and whisperers of far more radical ideological orientation than Trump origiinally was.

[Skybird]

^, ^^ Eh - pardon, what...?

I said that the US are economically and militarily strong and the strongest single military player and one fo the two or three strongest economical players in the world (the dollar is advantage and vulnerability at the same time), but that in both areas it overestimates itself, and is not as strong as it thinks it is. And that maybe it is not a clever idea if you depend on somebody for cooperation or elemental supply to piss this somebody off and bully him away, while you additionall piss off your former allies so that they turn their back on you. Ypour aloainces are part of your traditional strengths, especially in the military field. They are the reason why your forces can walk around the planet as they want. Nobody else can do that.


Trump had to row back several times already, seems to have been caught completely on the wrong foot about the stock markets and sespecialyl biond market's reactions to his tariff games. Money is fleeing from the US currently. Not just a bit money. Very big major capital players. Trust has been destroyed, and it will not come back neither quick nor easily. A few comaonies move to the US, yes, but many more stopped their investments, or started to move out. Exactly the opposite of what Trump predicted, happens right now. You will start to feel it later in the second half of this year.


Your country is no trustworthy and reliable partner anymore. That simple it is. It may be feared, but it is not respected. Its th globe's bitter joke. And I do not even mention foreign political extravaganzas like Trump's love and support for Putin's war goals and Trump's hate on Ukraine because he hates Zelenskyi for personal reasons. Five Eyes has practically thrown the US out...! The other four nations said they do not trust the US services anymore to keep sensitive information secret, and hence are not giving them carelessly or intentionally away. The cooperation of Four Eyes with the US currently is only on very low level where damages applied by the US would be more or less not too critical. Thats a very substantial vote of no confidence, I would think - the US is (beside the UK) one of the two founding fathers of the later Five Eyes, with roots dating back to WW2.

You country under Trump has chosen its new role - that of the villains. Live with your new reputation. Its ruined. During the rest of my life time, and beyond I assume, nobody will ever trust you again. If you flip pages back to the time of the Iraq 03 war, you will see that I predicted, more or less, the US turning this way sooner or later, what remains to be seen is how strong the influence of the Christian radicals will still become in the new political order. So far, Trump opportunistically manipulated them, but in the background they are growing. And I am not so certain at all that Trump still is master in his house of cards for sure, I think he is under growing spell of influencers and whisperers of far more radical ideological orientation than even Trump originally was. And he is old, his mental and intellectual (no joke intended) ability is not stable, but inevitably declining.



Seen this way he stumbles over too many years with junk food that he so much loves.