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Old 03-16-20, 05:58 AM   #1276
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[B]This is important. Take note of it! About fever, Covid-19 and NSAIDs



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Old 03-16-20, 06:25 AM   #1277
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This is important. Take note of it! About fever, Covid-19 and NSAIDs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuWo5lmWuZI
Interesting. Thanks for sharing, Skybird. Regardless of what the German and Irish media is claiming, it looks like it may not have been fake news after all. Here are a couple of good articles on the topic:
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Fevers aren’t always a bad sign; you may even have heard that mild fevers are a good indication that your immune system is doing its job. But fevers aren’t just a byproduct of our immune response.

In fact, it’s the other way around: an elevated body temperature triggers cellular mechanisms that ensure the immune system takes appropriate action against the offending virus or bacteria.

So say researchers hailing from two academic institutions in the United Kingdom: the University of Warwick in Coventry and the University of Manchester.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/art...naling-pathway

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Evidence supports a beneficial effect of an elevated temperature as well as a possible adverse effect of fever on the clinical outcome of an infection. Most mammals, reptiles, amphibians and fish experience an elevated core temperature during an infection, suggesting that fever is part of an adaptive host defense response. The metabolically expensive increase in body temperature that accompanies an infection seems unlikely to have evolved unless fever benefits the host. Perhaps some physiological alterations that occur during a febrile response may be responsible for increased resistance to infection.

Certain observations suggest a beneficial relationship between elevated temperature and outcome of an infection. Microbes may replicate less efficiently at an elevated temperature than at a normal temperature. Certain immune responses such as leukocyte migration may be enhanced at higher temperatures. However, treatment of fever is based on the assumption that fever has a harmful effect and that reducing an elevated temperature will be beneficial.

Available evidence does not provide a clear understanding as to whether fever impairs or enhances the host’s immune response to infection.
https://www.aappublications.org/news...snapshot050319

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A recent study in the journal Pediatrics shows that 91 percent of parents surveyed thought that a fever can cause harmful effects, with 56 percent of caregivers very worried about the potential harm of fevers for their own children. And 89 percent of parents reached for such fever reducers as acetaminophen and ibuprofen before temperatures reached 102 degrees.

Why should any of this matter? Because it is often not necessary -- and may not even be wise -- to be too quick to rush for the medicine cabinet when your child has a fever. "Nothing bad is going to happen if you don't treat the fever," says Dr. Ari Brown, a pediatrician in Austin, Texas, and spokesperson for the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP). She's also author of Baby 411: Clear Answers and Smart Advice for Your Baby's First Year (Windsor Peak).

A fever, not surprisingly, indicates that your child is fighting off some kind of infection, such as a simple cold, the flu, or an ear infection. It is not an illness in itself. In fact, a fever may do some good. A study published in the February 2004 Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology found that children who ran a fever during their first year were less likely to develop allergies later in childhood than children who did not have fever.

More importantly, according to the AAP, a fever can help your child's body fight off infection. Many illness-causing microbes do best at the body's normal temperature. A fever raises the temperature beyond which certain microbes need to reproduce. A fever also kicks your child's immune system into high gear, spurring the rapid production of bug-clobbering white blood cells. A small but growing body of research shows that letting a fever run its course may reduce the length and severity of such illnesses as colds and flu.

As for the concern among parents that fevers can have harmful effects, these instances are very rare. The brain has an internal regulatory mechanism that prevents fevers caused by infections from getting higher than 105 or 106 degrees. Body temperature must get above 108 degrees to cause damage. Temperatures this high are caused only by exceptional circumstances, such as central nervous system disorders or heatstroke.
https://www.parents.com/health/fever/fever-benefits/

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Old 03-16-20, 06:31 AM   #1278
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British NHS expects outbreak to last for 12 months at least.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...m-hospitalised



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UK Government calls for the "Blitz spirit" again, feel free to bomb us Germany.

You know we are in a deep swamp when they come out saying that rubbish.

Just to add still no toilet rolls at my local supermarket, the weight of the dust will be bring down those shelf's soon.
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Old 03-16-20, 06:47 AM   #1280
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A simple flu.





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Massive new grave ditches being dug in Iran.

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Old 03-16-20, 07:01 AM   #1282
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The years 2020 2021 are marked to stand out in my life's biography, that much is certain. For the younger generations, it will be two years lost like in a big war.


I pray that this will not be the time when other additional hardships hit us, nationally. Power blackouts, IT network collapses.



Whereever you live, prepare for curfew coming and lasting for long time.
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Wherever you live, prepare for curfew coming and lasting for long time.
I completely agree. It's the only way to flatten the curve.
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Old 03-16-20, 08:43 AM   #1284
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Boris Johnson will outline the next steps in the UK's plan to fight coronavirus at the first of a series of daily news conferences.

The briefing will follow a Cobra meeting which is expected to look at what steps the government could take to protect elderly and vulnerable people.

The over-70s have been told they are allowed to go out for walks when their lengthy self-isolation period begins.

A total of 35 people have died in the UK after contracting Covid-19.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51901818
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Well we are closing down schools and universities here, atleast till the big elections/referendum day (22nd of April).


Roskomnadzor reported yesterday that a total of ~110k tests were made by that point.


https://www.rospotrebnadzor.ru/about...EMENT_ID=13993

So far atleast in my local area there were no runs on the supermarkets (but then I am in a fairly low density area in terms of actual residents).
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I think this would help us on if we have the Covid-19 or just a flu or cold

I'm still not sure what I have still coughing this morning, but I slept without taking a cold pill so that's a good sign.

Waiting for a drive thru to check me, but in my small rural area that might take till next year lol

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A report from a guy who got it early. Please note the difficulty he had simply breathing.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ClementYC...88969398906880

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Hi guys. Have you missed me? I’ve been in the ICU fighting...wait for it...Coronavirus!

Basically had a low grade fever for a few days then a bad cough, that turned into respiratory failure. I came in and they had to put me on high flow oxygen (3 times normal)...hence ICU

My breathing was so compromised that I couldn’t keep my O2 levels up even wi 10L of oxygen

I was the first COVID19 patient in the ICU on Thursday. Now there are many more.

Important point: we really don’t know much about his virus. I’m young and not high risk, yet I am in t th he ICU with a very severe case
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Old 03-16-20, 10:03 AM   #1288
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LIVE: Finland activates emergency laws. Borders will be closed, etc. (now in clause 17 and still continues)
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A report from a guy who got it early. Please note the difficulty he had simply breathing.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ClementYC...88969398906880
This symptom is being described so often in Italy that already days ago some of their hospitals have reported that they have run out of oxygene.

Imagine that. A hospital having no more oxygene.


Honestly said I think the health systems everywhere will completely collapse. Some earlier than others, but they will be all overwhelmed in the end. And that is when the real big numbers dying begins.



It will be a long lasting travel back in time by decades.
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Old 03-16-20, 10:19 AM   #1290
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New Jersey introduces 8 p.m. curfew statewide.
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New Jersey residents are no longer allowed to travel from 8 p.m. ET to 5 a.m. ET, with the exception of essential travel, Gov. Phil Murphy announced today.

This remains in effect for the foreseeable future.
https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-n...hnk/index.html

And so it begins...
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