UK Politics Thread - Page 832

Jimbuna · 02-12-20, 02:51 PM

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Jeremy Corbyn has launched a personal attack on Boris Johnson as the two clashed in Parliament over the deportation of foreign offenders.

The Home Office has said the criminals deported had combined jail sentences of at least 75 years, including two convicted of rape, one of whom was sentenced to 11 years in jail and the other to four years and six months.

They included one persistent offender who had 24 convictions for 33 offences, another jailed for nine years for conspiracy to rob and possession of a firearm and another given a seven-year sentence for intent to supply class A drugs.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51474170

I really don't see a problem here and I doubt the Brit public will either.

Steptoe has no idea about this issue.

Moonlight · 02-12-20, 03:13 PM

All foreign national offenders should be deported from the country and those with dual nationality should be stripped of there british citizenship as well.

mapuc · 02-12-20, 03:59 PM

We have the same discussion here in Denmark and in Sweden.

The answer people get is

We can't deport foreigners who have commit crime in our country, if they have a Danish/Swedish passport, due to these conventions such as Geneva convention or UN convention.

Markus

Catfish · 02-12-20, 04:19 PM

^ Self-evident. If anyone has a danish passport, he should be subject to danish law. End of discussion.

Why he/she has initially received it (dual citizenship?) is another question.. and maybe reason for discussion or change.

But even a person without any citizenship and no passort at all is subject to international law, and humanitarian concerns. If you think this is wrong you should read one or two novels by Eric Ambler

STEED · 02-13-20, 08:55 AM

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Sajid Javid has resigned as chancellor as Boris Johnson carries out a post-Brexit cabinet reshuffle.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-51491662

Shortest Chancellor in history, not a good thing with the budget four weeks away.

Catfish · 02-13-20, 09:05 AM

"Mr Javid rejected an order to fire his team of aides, saying "no self-respecting minister" could accept such a condition."

I am sure "The Sun" or "Express UK" will use a different description.

"His resignation follows rumours of tensions between Mr Javid and the prime minister's senior adviser Dominic Cummings."

Could it be someone has a rest of reason, and self respect.

Moonlight · 02-13-20, 09:23 AM

Dominic Cummings is pulling all the strings here and poor old Bozo Johnson is having to dance to his tunes whether he likes it or not.

I'm pleased Dominic has axed Julian Smith, he approved prosecuting ex British soldiers in N Ireland.

Housing Minister Esther McVey has bit the dust again, can't that bleeding woman hold a job down?.

Sajid Javid, with a name like that he needed sacking, but he jumped before he was pushed, he never even had a budget so we didn't know if he was going to be any good as a chancellor, obviously Dominic thought not.

If these two keep carrying on like this no one will want to be promoted to the cabinet, beware the Ides of March Bozo.

MGR1 · 02-13-20, 10:01 AM

If you peruse the blog post over on Conservative Home you'll find that quite a few of it's commentators don't like what they're seeing:

RESHUFFLE LIVE BLOG

We'll, they did vote BoJo in as leader. My heart bleeds. NOT....

Profile of the new UK Chancellor:

Profile: Rishi Sunak, rising star of the Johnson project

Mike.

Skybird · 02-13-20, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Steptoe has no idea about this issue.

Oh, he has. He sees that he is loosing another one of his most natural allies.

STEED · 02-13-20, 11:37 AM

Psycho Dominic is the puppet master.

Jimbuna · 02-13-20, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

"Mr Javid rejected an order to fire his team of aides, saying "no self-respecting minister" could accept such a condition."

I am sure "The Sun" or "Express UK" will use a different description.

"His resignation follows rumours of tensions between Mr Javid and the prime minister's senior adviser Dominic Cummings."

Could it be someone has a rest of reason, and self respect.

Quite concerning overall but he does appear to have an abundance of self respect.

Jimbuna · 02-13-20, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonlight

Dominic Cummings is pulling all the strings here and poor old Bozo Johnson is having to dance to his tunes whether he likes it or not.

On the contrary, he is the front man for Boris, who is obviously delighted takes all the flack for everything.

Boris has long wanted to have more direct influence on a number of government departments and the treasury is the latest.

Jimbuna · 02-13-20, 03:01 PM

Cabinet reshuffle: Who is in Boris Johnson's new cabinet?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49043973

Jimbuna · 02-14-20, 06:52 AM

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Scottish Conservatives: Jackson Carlaw succeeds Ruth Davidson as leader

Jackson Carlaw has been confirmed as the new leader of the Scottish Conservatives after winning a vote of party members.

Mr Carlaw had been the party's interim leader since Ruth Davidson quit the role in August.

He has now won the job full time after defeating fellow MSP Michelle Ballantyne by 4,917 votes to 1,581.

Mr Carlaw had been the clear favourite in the contest, and was backed by most of the party's MPs and MSPs.

He said he was now "ready to hit the ground running and win" in next year's Scottish Parliament election by attracting voters from "middle Scotland".

The new leader has already promised a full review of the party's policies and a "new, reinvigorated" frontbench team at Holyrood.

An interesting time to take over the reins.

STEED · 02-14-20, 08:32 AM

This will need to be confirmed as I heard this on the radio.

The Jewish Council of England is backing Lisa Nandy to be the next leader or the labour party.

02-12-20, 03:13 PM	#12467
Moonlight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fookhall Copse Posts: 2,520 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 0	All foreign national offenders should be deported from the country and those with dual nationality should be stripped of there british citizenship as well. __________________

02-12-20, 04:19 PM	#12469
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,768 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ Self-evident. If anyone has a danish passport, he should be subject to danish law. End of discussion. Why he/she has initially received it (dual citizenship?) is another question.. and maybe reason for discussion or change. But even a person without any citizenship and no passort at all is subject to international law, and humanitarian concerns. If you think this is wrong you should read one or two novels by Eric Ambler __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

02-13-20, 09:05 AM	#12471
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,768 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	"Mr Javid rejected an order to fire his team of aides, saying "no self-respecting minister" could accept such a condition." I am sure "The Sun" or "Express UK" will use a different description. "His resignation follows rumours of tensions between Mr Javid and the prime minister's senior adviser Dominic Cummings." Could it be someone has a rest of reason, and self respect. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

02-13-20, 09:23 AM	#12472
Moonlight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fookhall Copse Posts: 2,520 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 0	Dominic Cummings is pulling all the strings here and poor old Bozo Johnson is having to dance to his tunes whether he likes it or not. I'm pleased Dominic has axed Julian Smith, he approved prosecuting ex British soldiers in N Ireland. Housing Minister Esther McVey has bit the dust again, can't that bleeding woman hold a job down?. Sajid Javid, with a name like that he needed sacking, but he jumped before he was pushed, he never even had a budget so we didn't know if he was going to be any good as a chancellor, obviously Dominic thought not. If these two keep carrying on like this no one will want to be promoted to the cabinet, beware the Ides of March Bozo. __________________

02-13-20, 10:01 AM	#12473
MGR1 Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland, United Kingdom Posts: 980 Downloads: 252 Uploads: 0	If you peruse the blog post over on Conservative Home you'll find that quite a few of it's commentators don't like what they're seeing: RESHUFFLE LIVE BLOG We'll, they did vote BoJo in as leader. My heart bleeds. NOT.... Profile of the new UK Chancellor: Profile: Rishi Sunak, rising star of the Johnson project Mike. __________________ "I am the battleship Jean Bart. This name originates from a certain 'respected' privateer... Yes? You want to know what privateers are? Hmph, they are pirates that rob openly under the banner of their country." Jean Bart from the mobile game Azur Lane.

02-12-20, 03:59 PM	#12468
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,541 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	We have the same discussion here in Denmark and in Sweden. The answer people get is We can't deport foreigners who have commit crime in our country, if they have a Danish/Swedish passport, due to these conventions such as Geneva convention or UN convention. Markus

02-13-20, 11:37 AM	#12475
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Psycho Dominic is the puppet master. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

02-13-20, 03:01 PM	#12478
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,621 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Cabinet reshuffle: Who is in Boris Johnson's new cabinet? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49043973 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-14-20, 08:32 AM	#12480
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	This will need to be confirmed as I heard this on the radio. The Jewish Council of England is backing Lisa Nandy to be the next leader or the labour party. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!