UK Politics Thread

[Reece]

Off subject but does anyone know the significance of the Japanese symbols at the top left of the forum pages?

[Moonlight]

Originally Posted by Reece

Off subject but does anyone know the significance of the Japanese symbols at the top left of the forum pages?

No Idea, and that's the best I could come up with.

Robert Buckland, Justice Secretary and Lord Chancellor.
Why every MP must unite to show evil terrorists they will never win.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/109241...sts-never-win/

Wow, that's really getting tough with the terrorists isn't it Mr Buckland?
WTF has uniting the MPs got to do with solving this problem I ask myself.
These are the usual sound bites from an out of touch hierarchy who haven't got a clue about what's happening on the streets of the UK or how to deal with it.

Bloody Hell I almost pissed myself with laughter at this pillocks ineptitude, this nonsense Robert Buckland is spouting tells me everything I need to know about this governments failures on immigration and terrorism.

I can help you out a bit on those 2 points old boy, the first one is to stop using the Royal Navy as an immigration ferry service and to also give those clowns in charge of Border Force a much needed incentive, as in their job.

The second one is to give us a legally binding referendum on terrorism and the support of it, I don't need to state what its about as you already know, no need to get your governments hands dirty as the citizens will sort this one out for you.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Here in Denmark some parties,not yet a majority of them, want to create a law which makes it impossible for the Danish people to vote in a future referendum whether they want to stay or leave EU.

This law should, as I understand it, be a part of the Danish Constitution.

Markus

On that ^ matter.

The European Prison. Guy Verhofstadt's lesson of Brexit.


It's over. The British are gone. At least officially. Because not much changes by the end of the year. Only then will the loss of the partner who is the most solvent with Germany and, along with a few other countries, most committed to democracy, become noticeable. Now the tough struggle for the future relationship between Great Britain and the European Union begins. And both sides try to get themselves into an advantageous starting position with strong saber rattles. There is no question, however, that they will pull themselves together. Nobody is interested in a broken relationship between the newly divorced spouses, who have to work 47 years together and have to build a new life of their own. Vengeance is just as bad a guide as retreating into the pout. Meanwhile, the European Union has already made it clear what consequences it intends to draw from the failed marriage: remaining and future partners should subordinate themselves even more strongly to the leading wife in Brussels, preferably they should also be given a ban on going out. At least that's what Brexit coordinator Guy Verhofstadt demands. The chief negotiator of the European Parliament called for the possibility of leaving the EU to be prevented in the future. Although he is correct in his assessment that Brexit marks the ***8220;failure of the Union***8221;, he draws the unmasking conclusion that the EU must be transformed into a closed club in which almost 450 million people from 27 countries with different preferences, Traditions and cultures are forced to marry.


The fear of imitators of Brexit is too great, because voices are calling not only in Poland, calling for an exit

The means of choice seem to be compulsory, after a self-referential political caste far from the citizen for decades has not been able to inspire the people of the continent for a union that celebrates itself in Sunday speeches as a major European project, but in everyday life comes along as a democratic collection of power-hungry apparatus , Now the European federal state - which the majority of Europe's citizens reject, that is, in the form of a European prison - is to include lifelong imprisonment. Once in it, you can***8217;t get out. The fear of imitators of Brexit is too great, because strong voices are already being heard in Poland, calling for an exit. One wants to pull the reins quickly now to avoid new grueling exit debates. While Brussels has announced a full-fledged ***8220;Conference on the Future of Europe***8221;, which should give EU citizens the opportunity to articulate their criticism in roundtables for two years from May, the first option was to change the European Treaties based on the collective wishes of the citizens: it got deleted again at the last minute. It cannot be more clearly documented that you see yourself as a central committee that stands above democracy. The fear of losing power is palpable. And also before the job loss. For most of the obscenely high-paying EU grandees, it would hardly be possible to find a place anywhere else. This also applies to Guy Verhofstadt, for whom a new post had to be found after the Brexit. He will - tataa! - become Chairman of the "Citizens' Conference". [He is the right crook for a rigged alibi stage play; Skybird]

The abolition of the accession option for individual states means that membership will only be possible through annexation

And so it is already clear what will be in the final report in 2022, which should form the basis for the future shape of the European Union. Verhofstadt made it clear: The EU had to be transformed into a real Union "without the possibility of leaving, of accession, without discounts, without exceptions". He has already taken a look beyond the European state. Because the abolition of the accession option for individual states, which he propagated, means that membership will then only be possible through annexation. Anyone wishing to join the large empire controlled from Brussels must henceforth be prepared to fully merge into the state. It is this perspective - disclosed by Verhofstadt - that reaffirms the critics of an increasingly independent European power elite and makes it clear how dangerous the Brussels apparatus is. Because the considerations inevitably lead to the lack of freedom. However, Europe's powerful have learned their lessons from failed attempts by previous regimes: citizens will not go hungry. You will have access to every conceivable consumption, if necessary with state support. They may also continue to travel. Unattractive border walls that prevent people from fleeing will be replaced by less threatening exit barriers for formerly sovereign states. Only the disappearance of democratic participation and freedom of expression marks the change of system. Socialism has prepared its return thoroughly. The British, on the other hand, just barely managed to escape the wall.

https://peymani.de/das-europaeische-...us-dem-brexit/


I know all too well why I dispise this hidden fascist so intensely. He and his gang probably are amongst the kost dangeorus gangster haunting Europoe currently. They must be stopped at any means.


Why is it so often a francophile, also Belgium-stemming "elite" that wants to force and control the whole continent by totalitarian means - with the power centre amassed in Belgium's Brussel and exceuted by Francophone political elites...? I give a hint. France. I give a second hint. Money industry. Its not as if Belgium is an real-economic giant.



I aoso wonder whether after the event sin Thurinigia now Supoer-Uschi will step down form the contral committee'S chair. After all she too was voted into office with the votes b "right populists", like it happened in Thuringia, and many of her own faction in the European parliament denied her their vote.



On the author of the quoted essay:

Ramin Peymani (born August 3, 1968 in Tehran, Iran) is a German author and publicist of Iranian descent.

After studying business informatics, Peymani initially worked for Citibank and Goldman Sachs. From 2002, he worked for the German Football Association for six years, initially as a financial controller, later as office manager of Theo Zwanziger.

He is the author of several books and publishes articles in the Axis of Good, the debate magazine TheEuropean, the online magazine Novo] and the monthly periodically free. Until the German edition was discontinued, he also wrote for the Huffington Post.

He is also a guest lecturer with a series of seminars on corporate social responsibility and a speaker on the sovereign debt crisis. Peymani lives in Kelkheim.

Ramin Peymani is a FDP member. He holds several party functions and is a member of the district council in the Main-Taunus district. The author and publicist is also a member of the Friedrich August von Hayek Society.


German Wikipedia

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Reece

Off subject but does anyone know the significance of the Japanese symbols at the top left of the forum pages?

I've absolutely no idea but it might be worthwhile sending Neal a PM of enquiry.

[Jimbuna]

Former Commons Speaker John Bercow has said there is a "conspiracy" to keep him out of the House of Lords.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51434470

I'm not so sure because my sources inform me the opposition against him is justifiable.

[Moonlight]

Has there been any incriminating evidence such as letters, emails or videos to substantiate these bullying allegations against Bercow.
If there is, then he will be damned for it, if there isn't then he will be exonerated of all accusations won't he, I'm no Bercow fan, but I think Boris Johnson and his cabinet are in it up to their neck in this investigation.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I've absolutely no idea but it might be worthwhile sending Neal a PM of enquiry.

My guess is it has something to do with this Corona Virus and China.

Markus

[Eisenwurst]

Originally Posted by Reece

Off subject but does anyone know the significance of the Japanese symbols at the top left of the forum pages?

Chinese actually.

He's honouring the brave late doctor.

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...&postcount=175

[MGR1]

Boris really wants to build that bridge, does he:

Work 'under way' into Scotland-Northern Ireland bridge feasibility

1: Not everyone in Scotland wants to be attached to Northern Ireland.

2: What about all those munitions and other materials that were dumped in Beaufort's Dyke after WW2?

3: What about the cost? The UK does not have a good track record with major infrastructure projects.

4: They do remember that Ireland, both North and South, has a rail gauge of 5ft 3in not 4ft 8 1/2in as in the UK mainland?

5: Boris himself doesn't have a good track record when it come to bridges. His Garden Bridge proposal when he was London Mayor was cancelled due to excessive costs after he left office.

Mike.

[Skybird]

Everything Johnson currently does, EVERYTHING, imho only is distraction from the no-deal brexit he plans to let happen, and probably always had the intetion. He does not want media and the public focussing on it, concentrating on it, reporting on it talking about it. I think everything he currently does and triggers in conflict with the media, must be seen in light of this intention. Cabinet members are gagged from talking to certain media or give interviews in certain program formats. The bridge project currently is such a manouver of distraction as well.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Everything Johnson currently does, EVERYTHING, imho only is distraction from the no-deal brexit he plans to let happen, and probably always had the intetion. He does not want media and the public focussing on it, concentrating on it, reporting on it talking about it. I think everything he currently does and triggers in conflict with the media, must be seen in light of this intention. Cabinet members are gagged from talking to certain media or give interviews in certain program formats. The bridge project currently is such a manouver of distraction as well.

What matters atm is he has a big enough majority to act as he pleases and that might yet turn out to be rather worrying.

[Moonlight]

Bozo has got some major problems hurtling his way and its probably going to split his MPs down the middle, damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
HS2 and Huawei (pronounced Wah Way) are the stuff of nightmares for him at the moment, he's going to need a very thick skin and even broader shoulders before he puts these 2 to bed, good luck Boris you're going to need it.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/109242...wei-decisions/

[Skybird]

The Huawei decision is a mistake, and a critical one. Huawei makes some excellent consumer devices with very good bang for the buck ratios (I just bought my second, a mediapad M5 8.4, and own a P9 lite), but it is insane to offer the Chinese military a breachhead into the countrys critical IT infrastructure. The technological implications are complex, and it seemd that opportunists easily overlook the risks, helped by their desire to not need to see risks, and further pushed by massive Chinese threats and intimidation, while depending on Bejings good will for future deals. But China is neither a friend nor an ally.


Nokia and Ericsson. European companies, not American or korean or Chinese. More expensive and not as leading as Huawei, but sufficiently potent to build G5 network nevertheless. The Chinese sell under value to get their foot into the door. its a trap.


Johnson is hopelessly wrong here.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Moonlight

Bozo has got some major problems hurtling his way and its probably going to split his MPs down the middle, damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
HS2 and Huawei (pronounced Wah Way) are the stuff of nightmares for him at the moment, he's going to need a very thick skin and even broader shoulders before he puts these 2 to bed, good luck Boris you're going to need it.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/109242...wei-decisions/

Originally Posted by Skybird

The Huawei decision is a mistake, and a critical one. Huawei makes some excellent consumer devices with very good bang for the buck ratios (I just bought my second, a mediapad M5 8.4, and own a P9 lite), but it is insane to offer the Chinese military a breachhead into the countrys critical IT infrastructure. The technological implications are complex, and it seemd that opportunists easily overlook the risks, helped by their desire to not need to see risks, and further pushed by massive Chinese threats and intimidation, while depending on Bejings good will for future deals. But China is neither a friend nor an ally.


Nokia and Ericsson. European companies, not American or korean or Chinese. More expensive and not as leading as Huawei, but sufficiently potent to build G5 network nevertheless. The Chinese sell under value to get their foot into the door. its a trap.


Johnson is hopelessly wrong here.

Agreed

[Jimbuna]

The PM's Senior Adviser, Dominic Cummings, has said superhero team PJ Masks would be better than the current Cabinet.

"PJ Masks will do a greater job than all of them put together," he told a reporter outside his home.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-pol...sks-on-the-job