UK Politics Thread

[Jimbuna]

Seven things Brexit will change and seven it won't.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51194363

[Catfish]

^ only during the transition period.
Whatever happens after that.. alone this driving license §$%&!! after the transition would be enough to cause headaches, thinking of truck drivers delivering goods. Do i need a visum to visit the UK after the transition? All back to the 60ies then.

[Jimbuna]

That is why all efforts must be made to agree a mutually beneficial deal surely?

[Jimbuna]

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

That is why all efforts must be made to agree a mutually beneficial deal surely?

Both sides' positions are irreconcilable. A UK accepting the EU's demands would render brexit pointless. Whether the EU will bow or not, I dare not to predict. I think not.

Its the one point that was the elephant in the room from all beginning on, and one can dance and weasel around it as long as one wants, it does not go awy: sovereignty can only be claimed back by breaking ties and then restarting from scratch as tweo totally independent and different entities settling their future relations on basis of right this: being independent and different entities.

The EU raises claim for the UK. And it will not give this claim up and will ty to bully and to press and to threaten and intimidiate it, like it does with Switzerland and its banking sector. After all, the self-understanding of the EU is imperial, technically seen. It certainly is not the strongest of empires, and most likely it is set to not live long, but imperial its self-understanding now is, there can be no doubt about it. With the continental interpretation of "liberty", and the anglosaxon tradition of "liberty", two civilizations collide that are very far apart. Not at all we all are united over this term.


Like I wrote one or two pages earlier: that when on Monday Johnson and Barnier both revealed their plans to the public, Johnson came with 3 pages and Barnier with 33 pages, is more than just symbolic. Its quite revealing.

I assume Johnson knows that a complete break-up is unavoidable and desirable. Barnier seems to think that although he suffered total defeat with his Brexit negotiation strategy, he still has the upper hand and can get the EU's will - or he just poses and his shown confidence is just the whisteling of a lonely one who walks alone the forest. I think the no-deal brexit will become clear early: already in summer when Johnson will reject for the last time to accept a negotiation extension. So far the paperwork says that such an externsion must be agreed on in summer at the latest. The EU wants the extension, to bind the UK into the current status quo for longer than just this one year. This is not in the UK's interest, but in coimp0lete violation of its interest. Johnson has ruled it out, and I predict he will not change his stand on that. Not if he means his Brexit project serious.

[Jimbuna]

I agree with you as far as Boris is concerned....there will be no extension and a clean break should no agreement be reached.

[Skybird]

The eU operetta parliament has raised even more punishing demands and requests for a final treaty with the UK, than the central committee before. While for the monment it has agreed to Barnier's amdate, any deal (if there would be any) would need to be agreed to by the parliament, so its even more pounishign dewmands are anything butr off the table just becasue they gave Barnier grennloght for the moment.



I think it is a relatively safe bet now that there will be no deal at all. Not because of Johnson saying No , or Barnier and Super-Uschi being stubborn, but because of the EU parliament being the highest hurdle. They really topped it all with their latest demands.

[mapuc]

Here in Denmark some parties,not yet a majority of them, want to create a law which makes it impossible for the Danish people to vote in a future referendum whether they want to stay or leave EU.

This law should, as I understand it, be a part of the Danish Constitution.

Markus

[Skybird]

How revealing that is.


Politicians wanting a law that prohibites people from voting for their freedom and sovereignty. Telltaling.
Of course such a law always is a violation of most profound basic rights, thus it is always invalid, nill and void. it justifies every selfdefence needed to defeat it. Man is not born as slave property of the eu.

[Jimbuna]

Raab in Australia at start of trade mission.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51399215

[STEED]

The old me would have gone off like a nuclear bomb but those days are over.

Labour leadership: Rebecca Long-Bailey vows to give workers right to turn off phones out of hours

Labour leadership candidate Rebecca Long-Bailey has promised to give employees the right not to be contacted outside of working hours.

https://news.sky.com/story/labour-le...hours-11928114

This shows how.....

I own a mobile phone its my phone and if I choose to turn it off I have that right too. If it upsets my works, tough I am not a slave.


Please Rebecca keep the laughs coming.

[Jimbuna]

Jeremy Corbyn is to snub a formal inquest into Labour’s disastrous performance in the general election.

The Labour leader is not taking part in the probe into what went wrong at the polls, The Independent understands, which is due to examine the root causes behind the party’s worst electoral defeat since before the Second World War.

Headed up by former leader Ed Miliband, the inquiry is expected to report that Labour was hopelessly outmatched by the Tories in its digital campaign, while activists on the ground were repeatedly confronted with concern about Mr Corbyn, insiders said.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...id=mailsignout

Now why am I not surprised!

[Jimbuna]

Counting has started in the Irish general election as an exit poll puts the three main political parties tied in first preference votes.

Ballot boxes from across the 39 constituencies were opened at 09:00 local time.

Indications from the exit poll suggest there is little difference in percentage terms between Fine Gael, Sinn Féin and Fianna Fáil.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51432660

Leo Varadkar isn't acting so cocky now but he's probably got a guarantee from his EU masters of a comfy job in Brussels if needs be.

[ET2SN]

It just dawned on me, the UK could sell their half of the Chunnel to Taiwan.

[Jimbuna]

London Bridge springs to mind

https://londonist.com/2013/04/londonbridge