Hamas launches war on Israel

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Lebanon: UN warns of escalating horror in Middle East as ‘communications tools become weapons’


https://www.ungeneva.org/en/news-med...ications-tools

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[mapuc]

Hezbollah's top leader Hassan Nasrallah have been killed

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c981g8mrl8lt

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[Shadowblade]

nice kill, IDF

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Shadowblade

nice kill, IDF

Yea! Israel can expect a very harsh response from Hezbollah, I think Israel are prepared for this.

Markus

[Reece]

Originally Posted by Shadowblade

nice kill, IDF

Yep!

[Skybird]

I cannot help but being impressed by the bitter, grim determination of the Israelis to see it all through, no matter the world. This attitude on how to win wars and what it means to fight for your survival is what the West has completely lost.

For Israel the need teaches the lessons, not some ideological leftist pro-Islamic mumbo-jumbo.

Absolutely possible that Netanyahu benefits personally from it, yes. If that is the price, its a small one.

Interesting to see how relatively mild and few hostile reactions Israel gets from Arab governments, considering the scale of the war. And those reactions it gets in parts are a balancing act of the governments who must weigh their own dispise for the Palestinians with the need to please their streets' public mood. Nobody should have the illusions that Palestinan Arabs are liked or welcomed amongst the other Arabs. They are outcasts amongsts their own people. And their stunt in Jordan has not been forgotten. Thats why the Jordanian secret service is the best intel service in the Arab world now.

We summarize it: Hezbollah's communications are seriously disprupted, their military leader pool has suffered very high losses and is seriously disrupted as well, and their stockpiled ammunitions and wepaons have taken a serious loss already, too - when if not now is the best time to go for them in totality? Hezbollah is not about a border dispute - they want to wipe out Israel. Nobody with a sane mind or just German hypermoralists like Annalena or a weak well-meaning doddering old man in the WH can seriously demand the Israelis to negotiate the terms of their own annihilation.

I'm sorry for the civilians, but Israel practices what I already years ago have preached: do not intentiinally target civilians - but also do not let the presence of civilians distract you from your military targets and the enemy fighters. Just go after the latter, no matter what.

Thats not nice. Thats war. We have too many illusions about simple truths. And we live by self-betraying thinking we could make war more civilized when making weapons precise and "smart", we can strike with surgical precision and no harm done to innocents.

All drivel and nonsense. War is not like this. Never was, never will be. Israel recalls something that was said by I think Golda Meir (I'm not certain) in the founding days of Israel: that the world is against Israel and Israel can only survive if convincing the world that it is a rabid dog willing to take down all the rest of the world along with it.

Now we are talking. Thats the language everybody understands.

Our little Annalena only makes funny sounds.

[Skybird]

This comment scores bullseye.

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[mapuc]

If you look further into the future, however, it will not knock out the Lebanese group, believes the senior researcher.

- Hezbollah is a huge movement with lots of members, and they want to find a new leader and new commanders. It is not the case that Hezbollah will be wiped out by this, but it is of course a serious weakening, she says.

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[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

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Like Hamas is not defeated, Hezbollah will survive this.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Dargo

Like Hamas is not defeated, Hezbollah will survive this.

Hezbollah is a huge terror organization who have a weak leadership for the moment. They will find a new leader and new high ranked person to lead the different sector of Hezbollah.

The next question is Iran:

Their two allied-Hamas and Hezbollah is under massive attacks.
For how long can Iran sit there and watch them being demolished ?

Markus

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Hezbollah is a huge terror organization who have a weak leadership for the moment. They will find a new leader and new high ranked person to lead the different sector of Hezbollah.

The next question is Iran:

Their two allied-Hamas and Hezbollah is under massive attacks.
For how long can Iran sit there and watch them being demolished ?

Markus

Iran wants some kinda deal with the West so they hold back, in the meantime diplomatic channels are busy in negotiations. Iran can say to Hamas, Hezbollah or the Houthis go do a full strike, and it will go hot in the Middle East, but this is their major card in their diplomatic policy.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Dargo

Iran wants some kinda deal with the West so they hold back, in the meantime diplomatic channels are busy in negotiations. Iran can say to Hamas, Hezbollah or the Houthis go do a full strike, and it will go hot in the Middle East, but this is their major card in their diplomatic policy.

Not only that, they are so close to have developed their own nuke and getting this destroyed in a war with Israel and/ or USA is not what they wish.

However how much impact does Iran have on these three terror organization ?
Hezbollah have said they will revenge this and you can bet on it will be a harsh reply from them, which Israel will give a counter-response to and the spiral of war and evilness will continue.

Hezbollah have also asked their allied to help them in their fight against Israel. Wonder how many of these are going to help them.

Markus

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Not only that, they are so close to have developed their own nuke and getting this destroyed in a war with Israel and/ or USA is not what they wish.

However how much impact does Iran have on these three terror organization ?
Hezbollah have said they will revenge this and you can bet on it will be a harsh reply from them, which Israel will give a counter-response to and the spiral of war and evilness will continue.

Hezbollah have also asked their allied to help them in their fight against Israel. Wonder how many of these are going to help them.

Markus

Iran is not the only country that has influence on Hezbollah, but with delivering the goods they have the say on when to use and how to use them like the US can restrict Ukraine. Nukes are not for use, they are to build the status quo of I have them so do not dare to attack me else I nuke you.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Dargo

Iran is not the only country that has influence on Hezbollah, but with delivering the goods they have the say on when to use and how to use them like the US can restrict Ukraine. Nukes are not for use, they are to build the status quo of I have them so do not dare to attack me else I nuke you.

I say the same-They will not use them against their enemies, what I think they will, is to use them as some kind of blackmail against their enemies.

Markus