[REL] RFB/Real Fleet Boat for 1.5 - Page 81

Brenjen · 08-22-08, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by swdw

Look at it from another viewpoint.

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BTW, the "options thing" i.e., ability to change options in the office, is something that should have been covered in the SH4 manual as it has caused problems with people who are using NO mods. So please keep that in mind when ranting at the modders for any mod.

I 'm nod ranting at the modder(s) about the mod; it's about the elitism displayed in answering by the people following post #259. I used reverse sarcasm to make the point; clearly it worked as you saw how the other shoe feels.

LukeFF · 08-23-08, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish40

Looks great Luke

I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas, waiting for this new release. I can't stand it anymore

. Keep up the great work guys!

Yep, you guys are going to like this! I'm touching up all the stock interiors (German included), so the boats will definitely feel a bit more "alive" when calling General Quarters.

Orion2012 · 08-23-08, 07:16 PM

Is there any way that the open torpedo doors option could open both selected doors in the uboats?? I always forget to manually open them and it causes my spread to be awful..

I know the mod is primarily for the fleet boat, but if anyone knows what would need to be done, I'll make the changes myself, to my own game.

LukeFF · 08-25-08, 01:37 AM

Hey guys,

As you probably are aware, both clocks in the Type XVIII and IXD2 radio/sonar rooms are "broken" by default (missing sounds, missing minute hand). However, I went in and had a look at the files tonight, and now those two clocks are working how they should.

Overall, I'm going through and trying to fix as many little bugs like this as I can with the interiors.

Fish40 · 08-25-08, 04:24 AM

Luke, you're doing an outstanding job here! If I may make a small request: I know I mentioned this in an earlier post in this thread, and you responded that it was "ON the to do list". I'm hopeing that this will still make it in: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=135184 As I said in the earlier post, mabey as an optional install package. Definitely a must for the U Boat user IMO. Thanks, and keep up the great work!

LukeFF · 08-25-08, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish40

Luke, you're doing an outstanding job here! If I may make a small request: I know I mentioned this in an earlier post in this thread, and you responded that it was "ON the to do list". I'm hopeing that this will still make it in: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=135184 As I said in the earlier post, mabey as an optional install package. Definitely a must for the U Boat user IMO. Thanks, and keep up the great work!

Still on the to-do list.

Getting the new ship damage model working right is still taking priority right now, but getting that mod in is still something I think will be seen sooner or later. It's just that, with only two U-boats in the stock game, our priority naturally is with the American boats. We have plans, however, to add in the rest of the ported-over U-boats from SH3 that are currently a part of RSRDC.

Fubar2Niner · 08-25-08, 08:11 AM

Hi all.

First post as I recall in the SHIV forums, so bare with me.

RFB team (LukeFF, swdw) not sure who exactly I should aim this at

2 questions:
First up is your mod compatible with JSGME, I'd prefer using this than o/writing permanantly atm as I'm new to SHIV, kinda, it's been sitting on the shelf since I pre-ordered the collectors edition.

Secondly I see Beery is listed as one of your testers. Is this the same Beery of 'The Mighty Eighth' R&R mod fame? If so your mod speaks yards allready and I've only d/l it so far.

Sorry if either/both these questions have already been asked, I'm kinda a n00b re: SHIV , but after all this time dust gathering it's time to get onboard I feel.

Edit: Sorry guys I have a third ? Can someone tell me what OM is ? I can't find it in Neals mod list. Thanks!

Edit;Edit: Sorry again chaps just discovered OM..... Operation Monsoon , correct ?

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner

swdw · 08-25-08, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Fubar2Niner

Hi all.

First post as I recall in the SHIV forums, so bare with me.

RFB team (LukeFF, swdw) not sure who exactly I should aim this at

The team in general, or any indivudual. Which reminds me, I need to add more names to the team member and testers list in the first post.

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2 questions:
First up is your mod compatible with JSGME, I'd prefer using this than o/writing permanantly atm as I'm new to SHIV, kinda, it's been sitting on the shelf since I pre-ordered the collectors edition.

Yes it is. Make sure you have the latest JSGME (2.1.0.107)

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Secondly I see Beery is listed as one of your testers. Is this the same Beery of 'The Mighty Eighth' R&R mod fame? If so your mod speaks yards allready and I've only d/l it so far.

I don't know if it's the same Beery. Actually, Beery was the ORIGINATOR of this mod. A group of us took over a few months after he put it out that he wished someone else would pick it up.

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Sorry if either/both these questions have already been asked, I'm kinda a n00b re: SHIV , but after all this time dust gathering it's time to get onboard I feel.

Ask away, its obvious from the response below you try to see if there's already an answer.

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Edit: Sorry guys I have a third ? Can someone tell me what OM is ? I can't find it in Neals mod list. Thanks!

Edit;Edit: Sorry again chaps just discovered OM..... Operation Monsoon , correct ?

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner

Omigosh THREE questions!!

My brains are frying

You got it right. OM is the campaign Lurker works on geared towards the u-boats.

Enjoy the mod.

LukeFF · 08-25-08, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fubar2Niner

Secondly I see Beery is listed as one of your testers. Is this the same Beery of 'The Mighty Eighth' R&R mod fame? If so your mod speaks yards allready and I've only d/l it so far.

Yes, same guy. I'm one of those old-timers as well from the bombs-away.net forums.

kwbgjh2 · 08-25-08, 01:33 PM

I downloaded this awesome mod 2 weeks ago and you have done a real great work.

In the start post of this threat i think the most used word is reality. And this is the keyword through the whole thread.

....." RFB 1.5 introduces a new submarine damage model system that is a departure from earlier models. The important thing to note here is that small-caliber (i.e., 20 mm) fire can and will damage your submarine and have a negative effect on your crew's health. In short, this means your sub's hull integrity will slowly be eaten away if you allow an enemy ship to rake your hull with cannon fire, not to mention the crew casualties you will suffer as well. This new system is a work-in-progress and will be improved upon in further RFB releases."

But i think that the damage that all deck guns do to apparently wooden ships is absolut unacceptable.

I am no expert in the behaviour of wood when a shell explodes but i am sure there will be great leak. Why suffers my crew injuries from small caliber weapons as my sub takes damage when i cant do the same to a junk or a sampan ? I have seen sampans a few years ago on the discovery channel in a clip about fishing in old japan. A Sampan is a bathtub with a canvas ! Sometimes with a hut on it which would be very bullish to call a bridge.

I have given up to try to sink just things. My favourite example is a junk in which my crew fired about 8 shots with the 4"50 . Because of my former experience in this case i allowed the crew to start firing @ 800 yds distance. It was clear night with calm sea. The reloading time got a little boring so i went to AA Gun and opened fire. Round about 1000 shots most of them because of the good conditions hits.

Ya off course the junk started burning and so on but that is crazy---Too much for such a little nothing. Next time i give my WP an axe and order him to sink this f.....g junk with his own hands.

Perhaps you can tweak this a little more to reality. Again...this mod is awesome.

LukeFF · 08-25-08, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kwbgjh2

I downloaded this awesome mod 2 weeks ago and you have done a real great work...

We are doing a thorough re-work of the damage model for all stock ships (in large part it's the work of Observer, who was part of the NYGM team for SH3). I'm sure you'll be pleased with how sampans and junks respond to fire once we tweak them.

kwbgjh2 · 08-26-08, 01:20 AM

I am really pleased to hear that.

Another Question: Zooming down on Nav-Map lets the Symbols of the contacts disappear. What is the reason for the RFB Team about that ? Giving the gamer a uncertainty of the contacts exact position ? I thought those old time skippers were absolut professionals about that ?!

Fincuan · 08-26-08, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kwbgjh2

Giving the gamer a uncertainty of the contacts exact position ? I thought those old time skippers were absolut professionals about that ?!

The default navigation map and contacts allow you to do measurements with the precision of a few meters. Somehow I suspect the skippers weren't THAT good

swdw · 08-26-08, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by kwbgjh2

I am really pleased to hear that.

Another Question: Zooming down on Nav-Map lets the Symbols of the contacts disappear. What is the reason for the RFB Team about that ? Giving the gamer a uncertainty of the contacts exact position ? I thought those old time skippers were absolut professionals about that ?!

I did that originally with the intent of adding the Navmap drawing tools to the Attack map. I've tried a couple of different methods of doing this and haven't been successful.

Still not giving up though.

Orion2012 · 08-26-08, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by swdw

I did that originally with the intent of adding the Navmap drawing tools to the Attack map. I've tried a couple of different methods of doing this and haven't been successful.

Still not giving up though.

That would be a very nice feature, hope you have success.

Now my question, is there a blind spot behind the boat with the SD radar, (finally earned the 1500 renown!!) I ask because I had a Zero come out of nowhere at a bearing of 180-185 or so, and didnt even know it until the watch crew spotted him. If it does, running at PD with the mast of it up, is gonna get me killed, so I thought I would ask.

Thanks for all your hard work.

08-25-08, 01:37 AM	#1204
LukeFF Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 3,610 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 5	Hey guys, As you probably are aware, both clocks in the Type XVIII and IXD2 radio/sonar rooms are "broken" by default (missing sounds, missing minute hand). However, I went in and had a look at the files tonight, and now those two clocks are working how they should. Overall, I'm going through and trying to fix as many little bugs like this as I can with the interiors. __________________ ROW Sound Effects Contributor RFB Team Leader

08-25-08, 08:11 AM	#1207
Fubar2Niner Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: London. UK Posts: 4,189 Downloads: 280 Uploads: 0	Hi all. First post as I recall in the SHIV forums, so bare with me. RFB team (LukeFF, swdw) not sure who exactly I should aim this at 2 questions: First up is your mod compatible with JSGME, I'd prefer using this than o/writing permanantly atm as I'm new to SHIV, kinda, it's been sitting on the shelf since I pre-ordered the collectors edition. Secondly I see Beery is listed as one of your testers. Is this the same Beery of 'The Mighty Eighth' R&R mod fame? If so your mod speaks yards allready and I've only d/l it so far. Sorry if either/both these questions have already been asked, I'm kinda a n00b re: SHIV , but after all this time dust gathering it's time to get onboard I feel. Edit: Sorry guys I have a third ? Can someone tell me what OM is ? I can't find it in Neals mod list. Thanks! Edit;Edit: Sorry again chaps just discovered OM..... Operation Monsoon , correct ? Best regards. Fubar2Niner Last edited by Fubar2Niner; 08-25-08 at 08:36 AM.

08-25-08, 01:33 PM	#1210
kwbgjh2 Bosun Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 67 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	Deck gun and reality I downloaded this awesome mod 2 weeks ago and you have done a real great work. In the start post of this threat i think the most used word is reality. And this is the keyword through the whole thread. ....." RFB 1.5 introduces a new submarine damage model system that is a departure from earlier models. The important thing to note here is that small-caliber (i.e., 20 mm) fire can and will damage your submarine and have a negative effect on your crew's health. In short, this means your sub's hull integrity will slowly be eaten away if you allow an enemy ship to rake your hull with cannon fire, not to mention the crew casualties you will suffer as well. This new system is a work-in-progress and will be improved upon in further RFB releases." But i think that the damage that all deck guns do to apparently wooden ships is absolut unacceptable. I am no expert in the behaviour of wood when a shell explodes but i am sure there will be great leak. Why suffers my crew injuries from small caliber weapons as my sub takes damage when i cant do the same to a junk or a sampan ? I have seen sampans a few years ago on the discovery channel in a clip about fishing in old japan. A Sampan is a bathtub with a canvas ! Sometimes with a hut on it which would be very bullish to call a bridge. I have given up to try to sink just things. My favourite example is a junk in which my crew fired about 8 shots with the 4"50 . Because of my former experience in this case i allowed the crew to start firing @ 800 yds distance. It was clear night with calm sea. The reloading time got a little boring so i went to AA Gun and opened fire. Round about 1000 shots most of them because of the good conditions hits. Ya off course the junk started burning and so on but that is crazy---Too much for such a little nothing. Next time i give my WP an axe and order him to sink this f.....g junk with his own hands. Perhaps you can tweak this a little more to reality. Again...this mod is awesome.

08-23-08, 07:16 PM	#1203
Orion2012 Commodore Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 611 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Is there any way that the open torpedo doors option could open both selected doors in the uboats?? I always forget to manually open them and it causes my spread to be awful.. I know the mod is primarily for the fleet boat, but if anyone knows what would need to be done, I'll make the changes myself, to my own game.

08-25-08, 04:24 AM	#1205
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	Luke, you're doing an outstanding job here! If I may make a small request: I know I mentioned this in an earlier post in this thread, and you responded that it was "ON the to do list". I'm hopeing that this will still make it in: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=135184 As I said in the earlier post, mabey as an optional install package. Definitely a must for the U Boat user IMO. Thanks, and keep up the great work!

08-26-08, 01:20 AM	#1212
kwbgjh2 Bosun Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 67 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	I am really pleased to hear that. Another Question: Zooming down on Nav-Map lets the Symbols of the contacts disappear. What is the reason for the RFB Team about that ? Giving the gamer a uncertainty of the contacts exact position ? I thought those old time skippers were absolut professionals about that ?!