US Politics Thread 2021-24 - Page 805

August · 03-16-25, 01:20 AM

Reece · 03-16-25, 01:33 AM

What's with those negative waves??

Catfish · 03-16-25, 04:19 AM

^ This lol

Victor D. Hanson is right. On the other hand no word about Trump's plans. I mean he describes it as if he was lecturing Europe but it is the US that does a 180 degree turn and is suddenly best friends with Russia and China.

u crank · 03-16-25, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

^ This lol

Victor D. Hanson is right. On the other hand no word about Trump's plans. I mean he describes it as if he was lecturing Europe but it is the US that does a 180 degree turn and is suddenly best friends with Russia and China.

Best friends? Really?

Reece · 03-16-25, 05:47 AM

Yes I find that hard to believe, especially since Russia and China are now friends with Iran!

Trump has been threatening both China and Iran! Who knows!! The world is gone nuts!!

u crank · 03-16-25, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Reece

Yes I find that hard to believe, especially since Russia and China are now friends with Iran!

Trump has been threatening both China and Iran! Who knows!! The world is gone nuts!!

Russia and China have opposing military, economic and ideological goals with the United States. They are not friends. And just because Trump is president doesn't change that.

VipertheSniper · 03-16-25, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDef

You really, really need to STOP listening to the talking heads on T.V.

maybe you should START, because the DOJ is arguing, what you dismiss so easily, exactly that in court.

Edit: actually it's probably even worse, the DOJ is arguing that the president can have anyone deported regardless of the AEA.

Catfish · 03-16-25, 06:24 AM

Kellogg has just been drawn back after pressure fom Moscow. Putin uses Trump to apply pressure on Ukraine, and after all that has been done and seen in the last weeks America under Trump is a friend of Russia. Maybe not China, but Trump sure has a faible for autocrats, from Putin to Orban to Meloni.

MaDef · 03-16-25, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by VipertheSniper

maybe you should START, because the DOJ is arguing, what you dismiss so easily, exactly that in court.

Edit: actually it's probably even worse, the DOJ is arguing that the president can have anyone deported regardless of the AEA.

FYI the AEA is a think tank, they do not set policy, Congress sets the laws, The President sets the policy to enforce those laws.

Illegal migrants are not legal residents or citizens and when found can be repatriated to their country of origin. migrants or visitors that hold Visas are here for a specified time and/or purpose, They can be deported for breaking the conditions or restrictions on their Visa. Green card holders are "permanent" resident aliens, they too can be deported for breaking the conditions/restrictions under that program. Green card holders are allowed to apply for citizenship,

You need to familiarize yourself with title 8 chap. 12 of the U.S.C

As far as I can ascertain, Trump and the DOJ are just enforcing the laws already on the books. I understand it can seem scary for some of you, but take a valium and relax, if you are in the U.S. legally and following the rules/conditions of your Visa or Green Card you have nothing to worry about, If you are here illegally, you might think about self deportation.

VipertheSniper · 03-16-25, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDef

FYI the AEA is a think tank, they do not set policy, Congress sets the laws, The President sets the policy to enforce those laws.

Illegal migrants are not legal residents or citizens and when found can be repatriated to their country of origin. migrants or visitors that hold Visas are here for a specified time and/or purpose, They can be deported for breaking the conditions or restrictions on their Visa. Green card holders are "permanent" resident aliens, they too can be deported for breaking the conditions/restrictions under that program. Green card holders are allowed to apply for citizenship,

You need to familiarize yourself with title 8 chap. 12 of the U.S.C

As far as I can ascertain, Trump and the DOJ are just enforcing the laws already on the books. I understand it can seem scary for some of you, but take a valium and relax, if you are in the U.S. legally and following the rules/conditions of your Visa or Green Card you have nothing to worry about, If you are here illegally, you might think about self deportation.

The Aliens Enemy Act of 1798 is a think tank?

Anyway, the DOJ is arguing against a temporary restraining order blocking deportations that the president doesn't need any authority under the AEA to have people deported without process.

And as far as I can tell it doesn't seem to matter if greencard holders or people in the US on a visa are following the rules. There are people right now, locked up, waiting to get deported, that have followed the rules.

Otto Harkaman · 03-16-25, 10:37 AM

Yep deport them! good riddance Alien Enemies!

Buddahaid · 03-16-25, 10:42 AM

Nice words but the rub is in who decides there are violations and what proof there is. This will be used as shamefully as the internment of Japanese American's during WW2. Trump and his cronies words have been proven many times to be false and that's why DOGE goes way out of its way to prevent any fact checking and has a FOIA lawsuit against it by the State of New Mexico.

First Amendment freedoms are not violations.

Catfish · 03-16-25, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Otto Harkaman

Yep deport them! good riddance Alien Enemies!

Then you as a descendant of european invaders in North America should go first

Otto Harkaman · 03-16-25, 10:59 AM

^I am sure the Caliphate of Mahmoud Khalil will come to your aid when threatened by Russia

MaDef · 03-16-25, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by VipertheSniper

The Aliens Enemy Act of 1798 is a think tank?

Anyway, the DOJ is arguing against a temporary restraining order blocking deportations that the president doesn't need any authority under the AEA to have people deported without process.

And as far as I can tell it doesn't seem to matter if greencard holders or people in the US on a visa are following the rules. There are people right now, locked up, waiting to get deported, that have followed the rules.

You need to be clearer then. EAE is also "American Economic Association" which is a think tank that does research on the impacts of immigration for lobby groups in an attempt to influence legislation.

Well let's see Trump has designated different drug cartels and international criminal gangs as terrorist organizations, stands to reason that He use that act to deport those people who are members of those organizations does it not?

You make the claim, now provide specific examples

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Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,919 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Yes I find that hard to believe, especially since Russia and China are now friends with Iran! Trump has been threatening both China and Iran! Who knows!! The world is gone nuts!! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,822 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Kellogg has just been drawn back after pressure fom Moscow. Putin uses Trump to apply pressure on Ukraine, and after all that has been done and seen in the last weeks America under Trump is a friend of Russia. Maybe not China, but Trump sure has a faible for autocrats, from Putin to Orban to Meloni. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

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Otto Harkaman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Posts: 1,224 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Yep deport them! good riddance Alien Enemies! __________________ "If you want to know the age of the Earth, look upon the sea in a storm." -Joseph Conrad USS Pompano (SS-181) https://www.oneternalpatrol.com/uss-pompano-181.htm

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Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,337 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	Nice words but the rub is in who decides there are violations and what proof there is. This will be used as shamefully as the internment of Japanese American's during WW2. Trump and his cronies words have been proven many times to be false and that's why DOGE goes way out of its way to prevent any fact checking and has a FOIA lawsuit against it by the State of New Mexico. First Amendment freedoms are not violations. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

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