Iraqi WMDs revisited

[The Avon Lady]

I like your new sig, Mike.

[The Avon Lady]

Another document gets translated: 2001 Top Secret Document: Production of Prohibited Nerve Gas Detectors.

Sorry, Mike. Still no pictures.

[HM.Medico]

It's really quite simple, Sadam slept with Satan (like in the southpark movie) and there all in hell

[The Avon Lady]

Guess what?

Bump.

Video interview of former Iraqi Fedayeen Major General Ali Ibrahim Al-Tikriti.

[Takeda Shingen]

Oh goody, the Iraqi WMD thread is back. Bring forth the childish banter!

For our new readers: When we last left, Mike was a 'meenie-weenie' and The Avon Lady was a 'poopy-head'. That should catch you all up; enjoy the show.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Oh goody, the Iraqi WMD thread is back. Bring forth the childish banter!

For our new readers: When we last left, Mike was a 'meenie-weenie' and The Avon Lady was a 'poopy-head'. That should catch you all up; enjoy the show.

The idea was to see if we could move past the childish banter.

[scandium]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Guess what?

Bump.

Video interview of former Iraqi Fedayeen Major General Ali Ibrahim Al-Tikriti.

An interview is not a WMD. Unless it happens to be an interview of Bush giving an unscripted press conference.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by scandium

An interview is not a WMD.

There was no claim as such, nor was that my claim when I started this thread.

The question is whether Al Generalisimo is telling the truth or not. This is the 2nd high ranking Iraqi officer that has gone public with the claims that the Russians wisked everything out of the country prior to the US invasion.

If it's false, then it would definitely seem that there are no WMDs anywhere.

If it's true, that would explain why they can't be found.

For all I know, these 2 guys are paid CIA stooges, puting on a nice show to excuse US blunders. Fact of the matter is, however, they are being shunned for the most part. No one is listening.

In addition to these Iraqi's stories, there's also the translated documents that have been publicized, several of which are linked to in this thread. Those aren't imaginary and their meaning is pretty clear.

[scandium]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

For all I know, these 2 guys are paid CIA stooges, puting on a nice show to excuse US blunders. Fact of the matter is, however, they are being shunned for the most part. No one is listening

That could be because the issue to most of us, with thousands of civilian lives on the line who's only crime would be having been born in Iraq, not whether or not Iraq possessed WMD at some point in time (we know there were some there at some point), or whether they possessed unmanned model airplanes or a couple mustard gas shells, the issue was did Iraq actually pose a threat to the US or its allies? That was the bill of goods that Bush, Blair, Cheney, Rice, and Powell were pushing daily for 6 months: the talk of "mushroom clouds", of "thousands of litres of sarin gas", etc, etc. That was the issue that people who supported the war rallied around (the other reasons came later). Its been 3 years now and no credible evidence of these kinds of weapons (let alone the weapons themselves) has surfaced.

People have woken up to the reality that Iraq has been turned into hell on earth for the people who have to be there (both US troops as well as the Iraqis themselves), that there is no end in sight, and that the bill of goods they were sold was a false one. I don't think anyone cares anymore what a couple of Iraqi stooges have to say (look at what believing Ahmed Chalabi led to). As GW Bush once said: "Fool me once, shame on... shame on you. But fool me twice... can't get fooled again!"

[Fish]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Guess what?

Bump.

Video interview of former Iraqi Fedayeen Major General Ali Ibrahim Al-Tikriti.

AL, your not going the way CT's do? They have the same approach. :hmm:

[The Avon Lady]

Big bad bump. :p

The NYT-IAEA Conspiracy.

[The Avon Lady]

If I'm already here, I'll post all the other relevant LGF links over the past few days:

Hoekstar Responds to NYT Nuke Article.

Thank You, President Bush.

Saddam's Nuclear Plans.

Saddam Was Close to a Nuclear Bomb.

[The Noob]

Why is everyone calling him "Saddam"? If i call bush "Georgie" i get flamed, if you call him saddam nothing happends.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by The Noob

Why is everyone calling him "Saddam"? If i call bush "Georgie" i get flamed, if you call him saddam nothing happends.

Please try to stay on topic, Noobie.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by The Noob

Why is everyone calling him "Saddam"? If i call bush "Georgie" i get flamed, if you call him saddam nothing happends.

1) Respectable news sources commonly call him by his first or last names. If someone were to call him "Saddie" or even "Sadie" I would give a response similar to the one I gave you.

2) I didn't flame you; I said that I thought it was demeaning and indicated a prior animosity which was not conducive to progressive discussion. If I had said something like "Shut up, you ignorant twit; show a little respect!"...well, that would have been flaming. I also mentioned at the time that I thought it was equally rude when opponents of the previous president used terms like "Billary", "HillBilly" and "Klinton".