Erich Topp died 27/12/2005

[Konovalov]

Originally Posted by Happy Times

But you didnt answer the questions asked from you.

True.

Happy Times,

Is that a Finnish Air Force Me109 in your sig?

[TteFAboB]

That's Eino Luukkanen, Finnish Ace.

Nice picture of Eino

What I wouldn't do to get my hands on that real BF-109 for an hour or two of flying.

[Happy Times]

Yep. Good site for everything on modern and historical fighter aircraft and tactics. http://www.sci.fi/~fta/index.htm , http://www.sci.fi/~fta/history.htm , http://www.sci.fi/~fta/finace03.htm , http://www.sci.fi/~fta/me-fin-1.htm

[Abraham]

Thanks for the interresting link, Happy Times.

[Konovalov]

Originally Posted by U-552Erich-Topp

What I wouldn't do to get my hands on that real BF-109 for an hour or two of flying.

Forgotten Battles with a good HOTAS and Track IR will have to do.

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by Konovalov

Forgotten Battles with a good HOTAS and Track IR will have to do.

Ilmari Juutilainen gives some tips for IL2 in this interwiew http://www.sci.fi/~fta/finace01.htm and more tactics http://www.sci.fi/~fta/fintac-1.htm , i think you can use these all in IL2 and be very efficient.

[Pax Melmacia]

On what I mean about how 'wrong' it is to be on the losing side, I was speaking ironically. As the saying goes, woe to the vanquished.

Of course soldiers are killers. They're supposed to be. But they ain't all murderers.

It begs a question how the Allied soldiers (and my countrymen, for that matter) would have fared under an Axis War Crimes Tribunasl if the other side had won.

Finally, it's ironic that in this forum of my fellow sub-nuts, no one has pointed out (perhaps due to its sensitive nature) the historical notes in the old Silent Service II game manual.

I say no more, other than to invite anyone to look it up.

Rest in peace, Herr Kaleun.

[Skybird]

Remember that mail you send, Konovalov? You were right. Glad I missed this one.

[Abraham]

@ Pax Melmacia:
Woe to the vanquished all right. But suppose the Allie political and military leaders (and your countrymen) had been tried by an Axis "Warcrimes Tribunal" such a tribunal certainly would not have won much international recognision, as the Nuerenberg and Tokio trials did - with all their shortcomings.
We saw how "Volkstribunals" operated in the last year of the Third Reich.. just a farce of what Justice is ment to be.
The reason being the fact that totalitairian systems have no antenna for Justice.

[Pax Melmacia]

just a farce of what Justice is ment to be

You'll get no argument from me here.

But like another saying goes, in any conflict, the one who's right is the one who's left.

Then as now, it didn't matter whether the victor (Allies, Axis, etc.) had the moral ascendancy. The winner will always be the one who can say: I've got all the guns, so I make the rules, and there ain't a dang thing you can do about it."

Please don't misunderstand me. I abhor any sort of war atrocity. But even if the Nuremberg Trials had been wrong, who would have been in a position to protest?