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Lane · 09-22-05, 12:05 AM

Ok I went to reload my saved mission patrol 8 was at sea at area BF 54
with New Cmd ver 2 and it said career was over after patrol 7?
Is this normal with the new version 2?
Said I need to start a new career? Is this normal ?
Going to see if i can reload saved mission with out SH3 Cmd ver 2?
I would though it would have said this when I try to start patrol 8
in port?
Thank's for any info
Lane

JScones · 09-22-05, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lane

If I were to load Rub 1.43 when i get back to port How would the fatigue work with Cmd set to zero? would Rub 1.43 over ride the fatigue settings and change them?

It would, but SH3Cmdr would simply overwrite RUb's model again next time you ran it, assuming that you still had a fatigue model selected as your preference.

In a nutshell, the last thing SH3Cmdr does before loading SH3 is write the requested options to the game files, backing up and overriding whatever settings may already exist. So if you select it in SH3Cmdr, you will get it in SH3, everytime.

A point though, before installing RUb, perform a rollback in SH3Cmdr in order to avoid any potential conflicts. Not saying there will be any, but it's good practice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lane

Ok I went to reload my saved mission patrol 8 was at sea at area BF 54 with New Cmd ver 2 and it said career was over after patrol 7?
Is this normal with the new version 2?
Said I need to start a new career? Is this normal ?
Going to see if i can reload saved mission with out SH3 Cmd ver 2?
I would though it would have said this when I try to start patrol 8
in port?

Due to the potential for in-game crashes, SH3Cmdr does *not* recognise in-progress patrols, it stops at the last time the user was in base. So, reminder to all: If you run SH3Cmdr whilst you are mid-patrol, you need to switch off the realistic career length option. It is not overly realistic to be retired mid-patrol, unless you want to introduce the possibility of mutiny.

However, if you do forget, you can always use the "return from retirement" option to bring the career back.

Essentially, if you:
-are mid-patrol and
-started the current patrol via SH3Cmdr and
-have not loaded any other missions or careers with SH3Cmdr between starting the patrol and now

you can bypass SH3Cmdr and load SH3 direct. In these circumstances, SH3Cmdr will only be copying across the same files as it already had done when you started the patrol (apart from any random folder files, such as the MVP, which may differ. If you want more variety with your skins, then you can use SH3Cmdr mid-patrol, but turn the bl*&dy realistic career length option off! LOL).

If this last part does not make sense to anyone, let me know.

CWorth · 09-22-05, 12:47 AM

Well I am now a satisfied SH3Commander user.

I have tried it before but the fatigue model was the big thing that kept me from using it.Now that we have an option of what we want to use I now am very satified with the program and plan to use it all the time now.

JScones · 09-22-05, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CWorth

I have tried it before but the fatigue model was the big thing that kept me from using it.Now that we have an option of what we want to use I now am very satified with the program and plan to use it all the time now.

Yes, historically RUb and SH3Cmdr were closely related. This is changing (hence why this is pack release 2 and not 1.44, it's now following the engine version number sequence and not RUb's) and by about minor release 2.3 or so SH3Cmdr should be pretty much fully divorced from RUb and fully customisable by the user.

Lane · 09-22-05, 02:31 AM

Thank's guys for the help

OH' some how I missed the return from retirement setting

I just started a new career from St Nazaire 7th flotilla Oct-1 1941
Lt Z.S Willy Schnee U-135 going to CF-98 using the CMD ver 2

V11C boat. Thank's for explaning how the fatigue works if I want to
use RUB 1.43 for right now I will just go with a few mod's and Ver 1.4b
Thank's again
Lane

joea · 09-22-05, 05:22 AM

I have a question about the "realistic career length" option. I have always understood the dice is rolled every time SH3 commander is started up, which prevented me starting more than one career at a time as in order to switch I'd have to risk getting one guy retired or manually change the ini file to "0". But reading the help in the newest version (GREAT STUFF BTW) I understood this calculation is made everytime you launch SH3 from SH3 commander.

Could someone clarify this for me?

JScones · 09-22-05, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joea

I have always understood the dice is rolled every time SH3 commander is started up

No.

Quote:

Originally Posted by joea

But reading the help in the newest version (GREAT STUFF BTW) I understood this calculation is made everytime you launch SH3 from SH3 commander.

Correct. And applies only to the selected career based on the last patrol completed at that point.

joea · 09-22-05, 05:57 AM

Excellent!!!! Off to start a new career while I still run my old one.

Oh and thanks again to you and Beery.

The Avon Lady · 09-22-05, 07:10 AM

I'm sorry to bore you but thanks, fellas! It looks great.

Rubini · 09-22-05, 08:32 AM

JScones,

Thanks for your great effort on listen all the community request. SH3 Commander is now the most democratic and complete mod here.

Greetings,

Rubini.

Reece · 09-22-05, 10:04 PM

As Mel Brooks once said "Why do I always get a warped one"

Hi, I downloaded SH3 Commander & unpacked to SH3 directory (still in its own though "SH3 Commander"), when I run it displays the setup for a new career but selecting a commander displays the commanders name (one of the internal commanders, not one I typed in) but no picture.

If I ignore this problem, continue setup then launch all appears to be fine in game, I select the commander that was chosen by SH3 commander run for a while, save, then exit. On running SH3 commander again still no pics, & if I choose on the left "Existing Careers.." all it shows on the right is "Select an existing career from the list on the left" What list? there aint one!

Also I have never seen an option for selecting "Crew Manager screen".
This is from the file "SH3Cmdr2.7z"
Any help would be very much appreciated.
Thanks, Reece.

Beery · 09-22-05, 10:18 PM

SH3 Commander won't recognise a career until the first patrol is over because the game doesn't write the career files until the first patrol is over. Once the first patrol is over you will get access to the pictures, crew lists, etc.

Reece · 09-22-05, 10:39 PM

Thanks, so even at the start when selecting a commander there is no picture?

Beery · 09-22-05, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece

Thanks, so even at the start when selecting a commander there is no picture?

No. You can only get pictures on the 'Existing Careers' window, and your career doesn't technically exist until patrol #1 is completed.

Reece · 09-22-05, 11:06 PM

Ah, the help file didn't say anything (unless I'm blind) & as you can guess I'm new to SH3 Commander, just thought there was a problem with my setup. I will continue knowing all is ok!

Thanks Beery & Jaesen.

09-22-05, 07:10 AM	#9
The Avon Lady Über Mom Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jerusalem, Israel Posts: 6,147 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I'm sorry to bore you but thanks, fellas! It looks great. __________________ "Victory will come to us from the wombs of our women." - Houari Boumedienne, President of Algeria, Speech before the UN, 1974

09-22-05, 10:18 PM	#12
Beery Admiral Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Silver Spring, MD, USA (but still a Yorkshireman at heart - tha can allus tell a Yorkshireman...) Posts: 2,497 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	SH3 Commander won't recognise a career until the first patrol is over because the game doesn't write the career files until the first patrol is over. Once the first patrol is over you will get access to the pictures, crew lists, etc. __________________ "More mysterious. Yeah. I'll just try to think, 'Where the hell's the whiskey?'" - Bob Harris, Lost in Translation. "Anyrooad up, ah'll si thi" - Missen.

09-22-05, 12:05 AM	#1
Lane Subsim Diehard Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Southwest , Indiana USA Posts: 380 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Ok I went to reload my saved mission patrol 8 was at sea at area BF 54 with New Cmd ver 2 and it said career was over after patrol 7? Is this normal with the new version 2? Said I need to start a new career? Is this normal ? Going to see if i can reload saved mission with out SH3 Cmd ver 2? I would though it would have said this when I try to start patrol 8 in port? Thank's for any info Lane

09-22-05, 12:47 AM	#3
CWorth Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gettysburg PA Posts: 845 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Well I am now a satisfied SH3Commander user. I have tried it before but the fatigue model was the big thing that kept me from using it.Now that we have an option of what we want to use I now am very satified with the program and plan to use it all the time now.

09-22-05, 02:31 AM	#5
Lane Subsim Diehard Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Southwest , Indiana USA Posts: 380 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Thank's guys for the help OH' some how I missed the return from retirement setting I just started a new career from St Nazaire 7th flotilla Oct-1 1941 Lt Z.S Willy Schnee U-135 going to CF-98 using the CMD ver 2 V11C boat. Thank's for explaning how the fatigue works if I want to use RUB 1.43 for right now I will just go with a few mod's and Ver 1.4b Thank's again Lane

09-22-05, 05:22 AM	#6
joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	I have a question about the "realistic career length" option. I have always understood the dice is rolled every time SH3 commander is started up, which prevented me starting more than one career at a time as in order to switch I'd have to risk getting one guy retired or manually change the ini file to "0". But reading the help in the newest version (GREAT STUFF BTW) I understood this calculation is made everytime you launch SH3 from SH3 commander. Could someone clarify this for me?

09-22-05, 05:57 AM	#8
joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Excellent!!!! Off to start a new career while I still run my old one. Oh and thanks again to you and Beery.

09-22-05, 08:32 AM	#10
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	JScones, Thanks for your great effort on listen all the community request. SH3 Commander is now the most democratic and complete mod here. Greetings, Rubini.

09-22-05, 10:04 PM	#11
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,718 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	As Mel Brooks once said "Why do I always get a warped one" Hi, I downloaded SH3 Commander & unpacked to SH3 directory (still in its own though "SH3 Commander"), when I run it displays the setup for a new career but selecting a commander displays the commanders name (one of the internal commanders, not one I typed in) but no picture. If I ignore this problem, continue setup then launch all appears to be fine in game, I select the commander that was chosen by SH3 commander run for a while, save, then exit. On running SH3 commander again still no pics, & if I choose on the left "Existing Careers.." all it shows on the right is "Select an existing career from the list on the left" What list? there aint one! Also I have never seen an option for selecting "Crew Manager screen". This is from the file "SH3Cmdr2.7z" Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Reece.

09-22-05, 10:39 PM	#13
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,718 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Thanks, so even at the start when selecting a commander there is no picture?

09-22-05, 11:06 PM	#15
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,718 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Ah, the help file didn't say anything (unless I'm blind) & as you can guess I'm new to SH3 Commander, just thought there was a problem with my setup. I will continue knowing all is ok! Thanks Beery & Jaesen.