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Old 06-29-13, 10:44 AM   #106
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I experience a "traveling" though time independent of my perception every night. So does everyone else -- sleep.

I go to sleep at 9:00pm. I sleep until my frickin alarm clock wakes me up. I have no real idea of what "time" it is. All I know is that it is too early.

So I look at my socially approved time reference machine "clock" and it allows me to re-sync my perception of time to 5:00am

At several periods during the day, I also lose my perception of time. Fortunately, I have a portable socially approved time reference machine "wrist watch" that enables me to re-sync my perception of time to match my co-workers perception of time so that I can show up to my stupid meetings on .. well.. time.

Without these electronic and mechanical socially approved time reference machines I would have a much harder interacting with others in today's social/work environment.

It is my belief that the concept of "Time" was invented by humans as a method of coordinating activities or communicating disparate information/patterns to other humans to a precision not normally available to humans in nature.

This is why primitive tribes can coordinate using sun angles and "civilized" tribes have to use quartz electronic clocks. It is all a matter of what level of precision is needed.
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Old 06-29-13, 11:30 AM   #107
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You describe the grown effect of this concept on you and others.

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It is my belief that the concept of "Time" was invented by humans as a method of coordinating activities or communicating disparate information/patterns to other humans to a precision not normally available to humans in nature.
That's what I described in my last posting.
But the concept was not suddenly invented with this effect in mind. It evolved over time to serve the necessities of the people at their time.

The primitive tribe slowly evolved to a "civilized" tribe. A primitive concept of time was adapted accordingly into our "civilized", more precise and more dominant version.
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Old 06-29-13, 12:59 PM   #108
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If you could travel back in time to "repair" you fault that you have made. You just make some new one and then you have to travel back again to "repair" this fault a.s.o a.s.o


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Old 06-29-13, 03:40 PM   #109
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But if you "traveled" back in time, your "mistake" would make just as much sense as it did the first/second/third/... time you made it.

Why would we assume that if we "traveled" back in time that we would maintain our "current" state of understanding?

So if I know today's lottery numbers, when I did not know them yesterday, if I traveled back in time to yesterday, I still would not know "tomorrow's" numbers.
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Old 06-29-13, 05:47 PM   #110
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Why would we assume that if we "traveled" back in time that we would maintain our "current" state of understanding?
If that's true then there's no point in assuming we're not travelling back and forth in our own timeline all the time, on the basis that we wouldn't know if we were. The point of time travel is to figure out how to travel independent of our own timeline. If we can't do that then there's no point in trying to travel in time anyway.
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Old 06-30-13, 07:00 AM   #111
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Old 06-30-13, 07:00 AM   #112
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If that's true then there's no point in assuming we're not travelling back and forth in our own timeline all the time, on the basis that we wouldn't know if we were.
Steve, I believe you already made that point next year.
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Old 06-30-13, 10:07 AM   #113
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Steve, I believe you already made that point next year.
I believe you are projecting. I'll let you know for sure yesterday.
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