The next HBO/Spielberg/Hanks WW2 miniseries is a go...

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

That war lasted entirely too long. But how do you effectively fight an insurgency quickly without help from the native government?

Wrong question. The real question is why it even got started in 2003. The answer is plans that were made already one decade earlier, and that nothing to do with terror, claims of WMD or anything.

The insurgency had to be expected, and some warning voices even predicted right what then came. If you have no answer to how to defeat it, then you have even one reason more not to start a war.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

He would have too, but we were too busy giving it to him over something else. Also, we recognize that he's repeating what he's read, however true it may be, and is still learning. You, on the other hand, spend so much time preaching and beating people over the head with it that everyone has grown tired of hearing it, however true it may be.

However. Nice sig of yours again, the Grammar Nazi. I already loved the cat.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Am I

I was only posting my interpretation of Augusts post not that I agreed with it.Though the advice to ignore you was meant to be useful as your discussions can be a little hard for some to handle.

I certainly agree that you do take flak for your views on warfare when others might say the same thing and take none.I would also say that I generally agree with you views on warfare.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

He would have too, but we were too busy giving it to him over something else. Also, we recognize that he's repeating what he's read, however true it may be, and is still learning. You, on the other hand, spend so much time preaching and beating people over the head with it that everyone has grown tired of hearing it, however true it may be.

Steve, you just made my day. I've had a horrible day...and that made me laugh.

Sorry about your eyesight too...

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

Sorry about your eyesight too...

I've lived with glasse for almost fifty-three years now. It is what it is.

[Andrewsdad]

Ok, Spielberg here are two ideas for you.

Remake "The Enemy Below" Although it would be tough to beat the original film. Really Tough !!!

"Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors" Now there is a great story with tragedy, glory, and lots of big guns to bring in the crowds. Might teach them some history too !!!

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[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Andrewsdad

Remake "The Enemy Below" Although it would be tough to beat the original film. Really Tough !!!

They could do it with a sub that actually looked like a VIIC inside and they could make the orders that are given by the Kaleun better.

And I think the ending should be changed. I don't like the whole Ramming idea


Other than that, i really loved The Enemy Below

[Stealhead]

When it comes to submarine films nothing comes close to Das Boot it was just such a great film it is very hard to compete with it.

The problem that any submarine flick is the simple fact that the subject matter is not as appealing to a larger audience.The simple truth is that a film/miniseries about infantrymen or pilots will just attract a larger audience which means more money.

Oh and the Coast Guard serves in more places than just the US coasts they where in Vietnam,WWII and they also have seen a lot of action in the Persian Gulf.In modern times there over seas service is usually inspecting ships in controlled areas some times they get to send pirate vessels to Davy Jones.In WWII they where very busy many Coasties served as boatswain's mates and drove landing craft especially in the Pacific others hunted for German U-boats.In Vietnam they where a part of Operation Market Time.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Oh and the Coast Guard serves in more places than just the US coasts they where in Vietnam,WWII and they also have seen a lot of action in the Persian Gulf.In modern times there over seas service is usually inspecting ships in controlled areas some times they get to send pirate vessels to Davy Jones.In WWII they where very busy many Coasties served as boatswain's mates and drove landing craft especially in the Pacific others hunted for German U-boats.In Vietnam they where a part of Operation Market Time.

I did not know that. Thank you for sharing. I always thought the Coast Guard just did stuff around our coast. It would make sense...haha.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

I did not know that. Thank you for sharing. I always thought the Coast Guard just did stuff around our coast. It would make sense...haha.

The Coast Guard is a Department of the Navy in the past and now it is also a Department of Homeland Security but can be taken over by the Navy at any time.I am not sure but I am guessing that the Navy still pays for most of what the CG has like they do the Marine Corps which is also a Department of the Navy. I cant say for sure who has the purse all the people that I know where in the Coast Guard pre 2003 when it came under Homeland Security.

One person that I know was in the Navy for 2 years got bored of it came home went to community college for 4 months got bored of that and joined the CG.He did 23 years with 2 years from the Navy he had 25 total and retired with larger cut that you get for 25 or more years.This was from the late 60's into the early 90's.He worked mainly on cutters up in Alaska he has no idea who many people he helped rescue.His last few years where in Florida running drug indication missions mostly.

[August]

You guys that are suggesting remaking movies are off the mark. A movie doesn't nearly cover the subject to the degree of depth you find in a book.

The Pacific was based on four books from two authors and BoB was a comprehensive unit history compiled from official records and participant interviews. In short a heckuva lot more ground is covered than can be contained in a two hour movie which is why they are 10ea hour long parts.

[Stealhead]

I agree with you I am not a big fan of remakes and any film you want to have a lot of depth to has to be in a series format.Normal films by nature usually tend to cut much of the depth out in order to maintain continuity you only have ~120 or so minutes to tell the entire story.

Also many people forget that Das Boot was originally a mini series that was later cut into one film.

[August]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

I agree with you I am not a big fan of remakes and any film you want to have a lot of depth to has to be in a series format.Normal films by nature usually tend to cut much of the depth out in order to maintain continuity you only have ~120 or so minutes to tell the entire story.

Also many people forget that Das Boot was originally a mini series that was later cut into one film.

I heard that, but what a hack job it must have been! I have the "Original Uncut" version (293 minutes) and it still left some stuff that was in the book. I can't imagine cutting out half of that and still tell a decent story.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by August

I heard that, but what a hack job it must have been! I have the "Original Uncut" version (293 minutes) and it still left some stuff that was in the book. I can't imagine cutting out half of that and still tell a decent story.

I have a really neat copy of the book that includes many of the photos that the man took.I really thought that the end of the film was well done it reminds me of "All Quiet on the Western Front"(original 1930 version) you get to know and like the characters then in the end...

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

I really thought that the end of the film was well done...

Unfortunately it perverts the meaning of the book there as well. Did you know that the Old Man actually survived?