Patch No.2 - DELAYED 4/20/2010 [Master Thread]

[Lord Justice]

Originally Posted by oscar19681

i was wondering what you think made the patch be delayed?

Sir Oscar, i sometimes present myself at your door (PM). so iam content to be silent to you at this point, speculation is my weak point, friend. Good Day.

Posted Tue April 20 2010 07:24 Tue April 20 2010 07:24 Hide Post It's official, it's not coming out anytime soon:

Ubi's statement of no patch release

The "no longer being released" is a mistranslation of "not being released as promised, no ETA" (paraphrased).

Might as well just close this thread and surprise us if it ever comes out... this is just getting dumb.

[Westbroek]

Well then it's time to start modding again! Woo hoo!
Let's get in there boys!

[pythos]

Far be it for me to jump onto the "let's bash Ubisoft & Silent Hunter 5" crowd, I find that you have really screwed up.

I have enjoyed playing the Silent Hunter series, and granted it is not a huge money maker like first person shooters, I think it is a series that should be fostered and improved.

You broke so much ground with SH3, it was the first sub sim where I truly felt like a captain.

Sh4 was a let down, due to bad quality control on your part.

Now Silent Hunter 5 comes and once again a ground breaker, but it is also rife with some serious bugs.

Now you do something that is so much a kick in the face of those that have been loyal to the series.

For no given reason you have delayed the 2nd patch. This has spawned several stupid "unbisoft is never coming out with the patch" threads at the forums. Frankly I think these threads are deserved. Why do you ask?

Because, you fail to provide a reason for this delay. We of the subsim community are not for the most part people that get a kick out of a game that requires little skill or even thinking. We simply wont be satisfied with a message saying the patch is delayed.

Good customer service would "we are sorry to announce that the patch for silent hunter five is delayed due to these reasons....., " and then go on and explain why the patch is delayed. We will understand I am sure.

SH5 is in a condition that shows quality control was very lacking. You have given us development tools to facilitate modding, but you provided very little documentation on how to use it.

I am starting to think about many here that Sh5 was the space shuttle of the silent hunter series (so few know that the shuttle was actually meant to kill the manned space program) It has all the signs it was mean to fail.

Delaying the patch with no good explanation is just re-enforcing that notion.

[Salvadoreno]

good post and agreed... I dont even have the game, but i have SH3 and SH4 and Sh3 was good, SH4 was bug ridden, and SH5 seems to be completely screwed. I feel that this is the way the gaming market is going lately, especially for PCs. Addons and sequels seem far more buggier than the last. Another example of this is the Total War series. Its too bad.

At least the modding community will prob turn Sh5 into a 9/10 game. But we'll just have to wait. All the tools are there so there is still promise. I definately wont be buying till the price drops to about 10 bucks, and by then im sure the mods will be out full force.

In fairness, I can't remember buying any software that worked perfectly from version 1.00 straight out of the box. And I'm not just talking about games. I think this is just the way that the PC software market works.

And I think almost every game community comes up in arms exactly like this one every time it happens. I think its just about right to move with the times and accept that this is the way it is going to be. I personally don't give the PC game market more than another 5 years. It always used to be the case that people bought high-spec PC's and games because they always looked better than their console counterparts. However this seems to have ended, we're now in a world that the PC version and the XBOX version not only look, but play in exactly the same way. The only thing that the console users miss out on is mods, and to be fair the average console user doesn't really know they exist, so doesn't miss them! (and who knows that the next generation of consoles will bring....)

I love PC gaming, have been a PC games since before I remember, and its such a sad state that the PC games industry has gotten itself into.

[IanC]

Originally Posted by severniae

I personally don't give the PC game market more than another 5 years.

Just a quick comment on that, as long as people had computers on their desks, there were games to play on it. Don't worry, there'll be games for computers long after we're both dead.
It's just in a bit of a slump now.

One can only hope!

[msxyz]

Originally Posted by severniae

In fairness, I can't remember buying any software that worked perfectly from version 1.00 straight out of the box.

You didn't buy software in pre internet era.

And before someone comes out and says "oh but software wasn't so complex", let me point that developing tools scaled with complexity so, actually it's much more easier to code and add content nowadays than 10 or 20 years ago when developers, aside from some compiler, had nothing to begin with.

You could count the bugs in complex and content rich games like Ultima 6,7 or Civilization (just to name a few) on the fingers of one hand.

The same could be said about consoles. Patches spread only with these generation of consoles. In the past, every bug that slipped QA was there to stay and game developers got very bad rep from that.

How many gamers are old enough to remember the Bethesda "Buggerfall" fiasco? To be fair, Daggerfall was relatively bug free, if compared to the state of some software (even blockbusters) that gets shipped today.

Maybe software publishers are lucky that today generation of gamers is relatively ignorant of how things were in the past. But to the 30-something generation, the "release today, fix later" politic is complete, utter crap.

[Nisgeis]

Originally Posted by msxyz

You didn't buy software in pre internet era.

There were buggy games released back then, so things weren't all that different. I can think of several tape loading games that couldn't be finished and two that couldn't be started or would crash. The way round it was to enter the correct POKEs, so not only did you have to wait for the patch, it would often be a community patch and... you'd have to type the patch loader in yourself from the magazine if it wasn't a poke or you didn't have the right hardware like a Multiface. Thankfully you don't have to type in 486 Megs worth of patch these days.

[janh]

Originally Posted by severniae

In fairness, I can't remember buying any software that worked perfectly from version 1.00 straight out of the box.

I guess you still a little younger, are you?

[Takeda Shingen]

Merged to master thread. No need for five of these.

The Management

[Takeda Shingen]

Make that seven of these.

The Management

[Takeda Shingen]

Make that eleven threads. Let's read before we post, people.

The Management

[Eldarion]

Oh great!
Now, though the sub it's on the surface (and in the harbour at brest!), my CO2 ratio is increasing (26% and going up). Why such a promising game should become such a dreadful failure?
Where the F**K is the patch they talked about? Does it really exist at all?