Obama is a Muslim! - Page 8

Skybird · 06-20-08, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Konovalov

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Wether or not trying this myth time and again is a dirty trick played by politically active campaigners, or posters, or both, i leave to the creative imagination of every individual.

Both. It appears to be a speciality of Subman. What's on on the menu today. Just the same old same old posts of unsubstantiated fear and smear.

True. Noted the same regarding the "same old same old" climate myths, too.
No wonder I switched him off. It reminded me too much of the yelling headlines of the yellow press.

Tchocky · 06-20-08, 08:23 AM

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In one group conducted on behalf of the University of Pennsylvania's Annenberg Public Policy Center, seven out of 12 independent Virginia voters taking part said they thought Obama was a Muslim

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...ama/index.html

Konovalov · 06-20-08, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

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In one group conducted on behalf of the University of Pennsylvania's Annenberg Public Policy Center, seven out of 12 independent Virginia voters taking part said they thought Obama was a Muslim

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...ama/index.html

Sad really isn't it? From the beginning of the article you linked to this line pretty much sums up this thread started by Subman and indeed the grossly erroneous title of the topic.

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-- yet misinformation is still running rampant across the Internet.

SUBMAN1 · 06-20-08, 10:18 AM

Seems you guys can't take reality when its put in front of you. Pretty funny actually. The site, what is it, the daniel site that is posted here twice has overwhelming evidence that is undeniable. I see you can't read anything without blinders on though.

If you recall, i used to go around saying Obama wasn't a Muslim either, but at least I have a brain that can see things for what they really are, unlike some people in this thread.

SB a classic - Obama stands for probably everything you hate, yet you even have blinders on! Its friggen hilarious!

:rotfl: The only reason your blinders are on is that he is a democrat! Double standards still fly out of you like flies on sh*t.

And if you blocked me, why are you replying in my threads? Go away already!

-S

PS. This says it best - “Liberals occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened.”

Takeda Shingen · 06-20-08, 10:37 AM

And since everyone has had their chance to retort, I think that we'll call this halftime.

Thread will be locked for a mandatory 24-hour cool-down period. it will re-open tomorrow at 1700 GMT.

EDIT: The thread is open. Keep it civil, and away from name-calling. The next lock will be permanent.

The Management

NEON DEON · 06-21-08, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

PS. This says it best - “Liberals occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened.”

You can say the same for the far right.

Obama was born a muslim. Okay. So what.

BTW.

Muslims are not excluded from running for President.

Stealth Hunter · 06-22-08, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

“Liberals occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened.”

Republicans and Conservatives are as capable of coming up with great ideas and moving this country along as anyone - they just don't do it.

Platapus · 06-22-08, 07:54 AM

Would it do any good to point out that Republicans and Democrats in the country are all on the same side?

While our (United States) political system involves adversarial political parties, All represent Americans.

Whether you are a:

Liberal Republican
Conservative Republican
Liberal Democrat
Conservative Democrat
(or none of the above)

We all want the same things in general. The priorities may change and the methodology of implementation may change. But we are all on the same side -- the American side.

I really wish people would stop dividing this country by using words that divide and exclude instead of unite and include.

People here, and on other forums, use the term "the liberals" As in the liberals think xxx. Or "the right" wants YYY.

People don't recognize that there are liberal Republicans, liberal Democrats, and liberal Independents. The same combinations exist for Conservatives and for any other political category. All of them don't think a like. Liberals disagree with each other just like conservatives. Even liberals in the Republican party disagree with other liberals in the Republican party.

In this country, we will always have political disagreements. That is the very nature of our adversarial system. But it is OK to disagree and still respect the side you are disagreeing with.

But over the past 20 years a societal cancer has been growing in our country. Adversarial political opinion has taken the appearance of hatred. Subsim is actually one of the better behaved political discussion boards (thank you moderators!), but even here there is division and extremism.

It is great to disagree. Academic debate is what made this and other countries great. But there is no need to demonize the side you disagree with.

This country is full of really good people. Most of them would disagree with you on many issues. That does not make them any less valuable as citizens. It means that our country is populated by humans; a very complex and complicated species indeed.

In this country whether someone is Republican, Democrat, or something else; whether they are Liberal, Conservative, or something else; we are all Americans and on the American side. It is so important to remember this.

We can be united despite our differences. In fact we must if we are to survive as a society.

United there is nothing we can't do, divided there is little we can do.

(sorry for the bombastic pedantics. I am just taking a break from writing yet another political analyst paper. I see in the United States what has happened in past societies. Internal divisiveness is how great societies fail not wars.)

Stealth Hunter · 06-22-08, 07:59 AM

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United there is nothing we can't do, divided there is little we can do.

We can't completely destroy the religious groups and dominate the world with a pure Atheist society hell-bent on the advancement of human knowledge and research into various fields of science... a man can dream, though... a man can dream...

And even if the three political branches were united (that's including the Independents), we'd still have a lot of problems solving problems given the fact that people naturally don't agree with on another... they tend not to, anyway.

Back on topic, though, church and state must be separated in all fields if we intend to pass ourselves off as a free country.

August · 06-22-08, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

...a pure Atheist society hell-bent...

Interesting choice of words there SH!

SUBMAN1 · 06-22-08, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by August

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

...a pure Atheist society hell-bent...

Interesting choice of words there SH!

Pretty much sums it up! It is interesting and true.

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Originally Posted by NEON DEON

You can say the same for the far right.

Show me an example.

-S

Foxtrot · 06-22-08, 12:15 PM

No Obama is an alien

Seriously, Democrats and Republicans are the same. Their election campaigns are funded by corporates, and these clowns are rick business men who talk about ordinary folks while enjoying the all luxury they can get. Heck, even their retirement plans are well paid.

Kapitan_Phillips · 06-22-08, 04:45 PM

Again, who cares if he is or isnt? What, you think he's going to go "JIHAD!" when he gets into office?

Letum · 06-22-08, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

Again, who cares if he is or isnt? What, you think he's going to go "JIHAD!" when he gets into office?

Don't you know that everyone born a Muslim is evil and is trying to kill everyone and steal our oil.

FACTZ!

Kapitan_Phillips · 06-22-08, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

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Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

Again, who cares if he is or isnt? What, you think he's going to go "JIHAD!" when he gets into office?

Don't you know that everyone born a Muslim is evil and is trying to kill everyone and steal our oil.

FACTZ!

Christ Letum, I go on a hiatus a while and come back to agree with your actual point

06-20-08, 10:18 AM	#109
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Seems you guys can't take reality when its put in front of you. Pretty funny actually. The site, what is it, the daniel site that is posted here twice has overwhelming evidence that is undeniable. I see you can't read anything without blinders on though. If you recall, i used to go around saying Obama wasn't a Muslim either, but at least I have a brain that can see things for what they really are, unlike some people in this thread. SB a classic - Obama stands for probably everything you hate, yet you even have blinders on! Its friggen hilarious! :rotfl: The only reason your blinders are on is that he is a democrat! Double standards still fly out of you like flies on sh*t. And if you blocked me, why are you replying in my threads? Go away already! -S PS. This says it best - “Liberals occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened.” __________________

06-20-08, 10:37 AM	#110
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	And since everyone has had their chance to retort, I think that we'll call this halftime. Thread will be locked for a mandatory 24-hour cool-down period. it will re-open tomorrow at 1700 GMT. EDIT: The thread is open. Keep it civil, and away from name-calling. The next lock will be permanent. The Management Last edited by Takeda Shingen; 06-21-08 at 11:04 AM.

06-22-08, 07:54 AM	#113
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,379 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Would it do any good to point out that Republicans and Democrats in the country are all on the same side? While our (United States) political system involves adversarial political parties, All represent Americans. Whether you are a: Liberal Republican Conservative Republican Liberal Democrat Conservative Democrat (or none of the above) We all want the same things in general. The priorities may change and the methodology of implementation may change. But we are all on the same side -- the American side. I really wish people would stop dividing this country by using words that divide and exclude instead of unite and include. People here, and on other forums, use the term "the liberals" As in the liberals think xxx. Or "the right" wants YYY. People don't recognize that there are liberal Republicans, liberal Democrats, and liberal Independents. The same combinations exist for Conservatives and for any other political category. All of them don't think a like. Liberals disagree with each other just like conservatives. Even liberals in the Republican party disagree with other liberals in the Republican party. In this country, we will always have political disagreements. That is the very nature of our adversarial system. But it is OK to disagree and still respect the side you are disagreeing with. But over the past 20 years a societal cancer has been growing in our country. Adversarial political opinion has taken the appearance of hatred. Subsim is actually one of the better behaved political discussion boards (thank you moderators!), but even here there is division and extremism. It is great to disagree. Academic debate is what made this and other countries great. But there is no need to demonize the side you disagree with. This country is full of really good people. Most of them would disagree with you on many issues. That does not make them any less valuable as citizens. It means that our country is populated by humans; a very complex and complicated species indeed. In this country whether someone is Republican, Democrat, or something else; whether they are Liberal, Conservative, or something else; we are all Americans and on the American side. It is so important to remember this. We can be united despite our differences. In fact we must if we are to survive as a society. United there is nothing we can't do, divided there is little we can do. (sorry for the bombastic pedantics. I am just taking a break from writing yet another political analyst paper. I see in the United States what has happened in past societies. Internal divisiveness is how great societies fail not wars.) __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right. Last edited by Platapus; 06-22-08 at 10:13 AM. Reason: Corrected type

06-22-08, 12:15 PM	#117
Foxtrot Ensign Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 231 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	No Obama is an alien Seriously, Democrats and Republicans are the same. Their election campaigns are funded by corporates, and these clowns are rick business men who talk about ordinary folks while enjoying the all luxury they can get. Heck, even their retirement plans are well paid. __________________ And when the plane got down to, 'The plane is 10 miles out,' the young man also said to the vice president, 'Do the orders still stand?' And the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said, 'Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?' Well, at the time I didn't know what all that meant.

06-22-08, 04:45 PM	#118
Kapitan_Phillips Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swansea Posts: 3,903 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	Again, who cares if he is or isnt? What, you think he's going to go "JIHAD!" when he gets into office? __________________ Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into.