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Old 04-04-08, 02:15 PM   #1
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http://www.wecansolveit.org/

He owns this site. Maybe he hasn't noticed the record cold temps outside lately. Snow in Iraq as first snow there in recorded history, China with the coldest temps in 100 years, worst cold in the US country wide in recorded history. Where is this warming exactly?

I guess he wants to be on top of something since he's failed at anything real. :p

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Old 04-04-08, 02:30 PM   #2
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"When you look at climate change you should not look at any particular year," he said. "You should look at trends over a pretty long period and the trend of temperature globally is still very much indicative of warming.
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Old 04-04-08, 02:43 PM   #3
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"When you look at climate change you should not look at any particular year," he said. "You should look at trends over a pretty long period and the trend of temperature globally is still very much indicative of warming.
Yes - it has been heating up since the 1800's and our mini ice age. It is now peaked and heading the other direction. No way to stop another Ice Age. Not even if we gave every person on the planet an SUV and told them to drive 25K miles a year each.

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And that's the point. To me any excuse to stop the SUV's is a good excuse
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Old 04-04-08, 03:11 PM   #5
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Today's earth warming news....please hand me my parka:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7329799.stm
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Today's earth warming news....please hand me my parka:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7329799.stm
Anyone that has taken 5th grade science knows that we are headed for an Ice Age. That is why this AL Gore stuff annoys me.

Of course 1 in 4 Americans think the Sun revolves around the Earth, and I can see some on Subsim think so too.

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And that's the point. To me any excuse to stop the SUV's is a good excuse
Epecially the ones piloted by cell phone talking mommies. And yes, they are piloted - since they are self guided missiles waiting to cause destruction! I have an SUV, but I use it to haul stuff. Besides, it will suck a $100 bill down at one gas stop. I drive my SAAB instead most time. The SAAB pulls in 30 MPG.

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And that's the point. To me any excuse to stop the SUV's is a good excuse
Epecially the ones piloted by cell phone talking mommies. And yes, they are piloted - since they are self guided missiles waiting to cause destruction! I have an SUV, but I use it to haul stuff. Besides, it will suck a $100 bill down at one gas stop. I drive my SAAB instead most time. The SAAB pulls in 30 MPG.

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Does the increased gas savings of the Saab make up for the 2nd insurance payment?
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Maybe he hasn't noticed the record cold temps outside lately. Snow in Iraq as first snow there in recorded history, China with the coldest temps in 100 years, worst cold in the US country wide in recorded history. Where is this warming exactly?
I can't say i think much of Al Gore, so im not defending him, but i have to wonder....

How familiar are you with the oceans currents and their effect on the weather?
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Snow in Iraq as first snow there in recorded history,
Not true!

There was snow in iraq the year of the first gulf war, but anyway, i think you mean Baghdad where it hasn't snowed since the 40s
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Snow in Iraq as first snow there in recorded history,
Not true!

There was snow in iraq the year of the first gulf war, but anyway, i think you mean Baghdad where it hasn't snowed since the 40s
And we have alot more CO2 in the atmosphere now then we did back then too, right? I don't know why warming advocates cannot see this fundamental and blaring flaw in their theories. It's as obvious as gravity.
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Snow in Iraq as first snow there in recorded history,
Not true!

There was snow in iraq the year of the first gulf war, but anyway, i think you mean Baghdad where it hasn't snowed since the 40s
And we have alot more CO2 in the atmosphere now then we did back then too, right? I don't know why warming advocates cannot see this fundamental and blaring flaw in their theories. It's as obvious as gravity.
Is it?



Is it as obvious as evolution?
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Snow in Iraq as first snow there in recorded history,
Not true!

There was snow in iraq the year of the first gulf war, but anyway, i think you mean Baghdad where it hasn't snowed since the 40s
And we have alot more CO2 in the atmosphere now then we did back then too, right? I don't know why warming advocates cannot see this fundamental and blaring flaw in their theories. It's as obvious as gravity.
Is it?



Is it as obvious as evolution?
Why yes, it is. The problem here with man-made "warming" advocates, and evolutionists is that they both only understand (or try to understand) the process. They never seek to look at the origin of the processes. Evolution cannot tell you how the process came into existence, yet it seeks to disprove the existence of God. And it fails miserably in that. Man made warming advocates seek to show a narrow trend in weather patterns as a tragedy, yet refuse to look at historical trends, current trends, solar cycles, actual output from natural CO2 sources, and actual output totals from man. They refuse to acknowledge that natural sources of CO2 are not a constant. Therefore, man's small 3% of 3% CO2 totals from all sources, and it's comparison to all greenhouse sources in total is totally negligible in the long run. In fact if humanity doubled our rate of CO2 emissions, it would add a measly .024% to the CO2 overall totals in the atmosphere. Not even making it 3.1% of the total of all greenhouse emissions. I don't know how these "scientists" get away with these blaringly flawed theories with so little questioning from so many. Solar cycles, diminishing solar activity, concurrent cooling cycles with diminishing solar activity, and warming on other planets in the solar system while we saw a warming trend here are other things to look at. When trying to understand 1+3=4, don't forget the "=4" part of the equation. And don't forget to add the "3" to the "1".

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I live in the North East of Scotland and when I moved here 20 years ago we would get a winter full of snow for a good 2 months and proper snow at that.

Now we are locuky to get any snow at the right time of year, usually February, March and not that much.

It has become wetter and overall warmer here. Used to be very dry here in the North East.

You're trying to tell me the climate isn't chagning, that it isn't getting warmer.
I don't doubt any of it Xabba. The thing is, the climate has always showed changing conditions historically. Where I live right now, it was both a desert at one time, and had evidence of regular snow cover at another time. Way before the industrial revolution. I wouldn't be surprised if your grandkids are saying the exact opposite of you. They'll probably be saying 80 years from now, "geez, back when I was young, we didn't have all this snow. It used to be much warmer!! Now it's looking like an ice age."
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Why yes, it is. The problem here with man-made "warming" advocates, and evolutionists is that they both only understand (or try to understand) the process. They never seek to look at the origin of the processes. Evolution cannot tell you how the process came into existence, yet it seeks to disprove the existence of God.
No it does'nt, it never has and it never will. The Theory of Evolution does not say anything about the existance or nonexsistance of any god or gods, but what it does do is disprove various creation myths. There are people out there who claim to have lost faith in god when they learned about evolution, Richard Dawkins being a well known example here, but the theory itself is silent on the subject.
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So daddy, global warming is a commie plot against freedom of movement for individuals and against capitalist economy right ?
Reds under the bed son you can not move for all these reds who make out there green.

LISTEN UP PEOPLE

SH*T HAPPENS AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO.

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