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View Poll Results: Who will be the next President of the United States?
Joe Biden 1 1.30%
Hillary Clinton 25 32.47%
John Edwards 3 3.90%
Rudy Giuliani 6 7.79%
Mike Huckabee 7 9.09%
John McCain 5 6.49%
Barack Obama 13 16.88%
Ron Paul 5 6.49%
Bill Richardson 1 1.30%
Mitt Romney 3 3.90%
Fred Thompson 8 10.39%
Pat Buchanan 0 0%
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Old 12-12-07, 06:10 PM   #106
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[. The only short stick some would say would come on my view of religion and politics. They do not belong together. At all.
Good point!
Because,... I find this alarming. :hmm:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=0
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This is a Documentary taken from channel 4 on the evangelist's in the USA.
Damn, I watched it while having my dinner - ruined!

I fear this developement as much as the spreading of Islam. Fanatism, fundamentalism, believing, no matter in what's name - to hell with all of it.
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I notice you didn't include me in the poll.
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[. The only short stick some would say would come on my view of religion and politics. They do not belong together. At all.
Good point!
Because,... I find this alarming. :hmm:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=0
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This is a Documentary taken from channel 4 on the evangelist's in the USA.
Damn, I watched it while having my dinner - ruined!

I fear this developement as much as the spreading of Islam. Fanatism, fundamentalism, believing, no matter in what's name - to hell with all of it.
LMAO...To HELL with all of it....hahahahaha....watched about half of it and turned it off...definitly a sinister plot to assimilate the world.

Keep on topic...these are American canidates from American backgrounds...that includes religion or lack of it. Get over it.

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Okay, I just re-evaluated my view on Huckabee. After reading more about him and hearing what he said about Mitt Romney's mormon faith I don't like him anymore. I'm not mormon, don't agree with their views but he has the right to believe what he wants and shouldn't be attacked on it.

I'm back to not know who to support for sure. There is plenty of time left though, the media is rushing this crap on us so much it is ridiculous.
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You forgot about the candidate, which I have just presented you for in my thread:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=126826

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Okay, I just re-evaluated my view on Huckabee. After reading more about him and hearing what he said about Mitt Romney's mormon faith I don't like him anymore. I'm not mormon, don't agree with their views but he has the right to believe what he wants and shouldn't be attacked on it.
I thought it was a pretty childish attack.
 
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Okay, I just re-evaluated my view on Huckabee. After reading more about him and hearing what he said about Mitt Romney's mormon faith I don't like him anymore. I'm not mormon, don't agree with their views but he has the right to believe what he wants and shouldn't be attacked on it.

I'm back to not know who to support for sure. There is plenty of time left though, the media is rushing this crap on us so much it is ridiculous.
And this is where I come from on the issue of Religion and politics. I knew Huckabee had no ability to hold his toungue in regards to religion or even that of another man.

If people think bushes war on terror is bad.. just think about a former minister at the helm.

Now, I'm no anti military fool by any means. I'm very much pro, just like I am pro religion. But I'm also firm in beleiving everybody has a right to believe what they want so long they do not force it on another.

I may agree with Huckabee on thoughts of mormonism but I will never attack a person of another faith for what they believe in. I am freinds of muslims, mormans, cathlolics and many christians. I distance myself from those who cannot follow their faith without a dire need to rub it in another persons face or claim how much they are disgusted/repelled by it.

Where does this mentality come into place in politics?

It should have absolutely no bearing on the political thought process. I never knew that huckabee was so flamboyant with his religion, and although I am a god fearing man, one with guns, a country boy attitude and llfestyle. I pride myself on understanding people need to make their own decisions and believe what they want, i may not be right, they may not, or we may all be right. But where does one like Huckabee get the right to say somebody else is wrong?

I have issues I stand strongly with and actually agree with Huckabee on, his plans for immigration are fantastic, in fact everything about him is appealing except for his need to be so out there with his religion.

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Okay, I just re-evaluated my view on Huckabee. After reading more about him and hearing what he said about Mitt Romney's mormon faith I don't like him anymore. I'm not mormon, don't agree with their views but he has the right to believe what he wants and shouldn't be attacked on it.
I read Romney's speech, and the message was pretty clear. " I may be a Mormon, but at least I'm not an atheist."

I think if we removed biographical subjects, religious views, and pointless "wedge issues" from candidate speeches and debates, there wouldn't be a single candidate able to speak convincingly.
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Okay, I just re-evaluated my view on Huckabee. After reading more about him and hearing what he said about Mitt Romney's mormon faith I don't like him anymore. I'm not mormon, don't agree with their views but he has the right to believe what he wants and shouldn't be attacked on it.
I read Romney's speech, and the message was pretty clear. " I may be a Mormon, but at least I'm not an atheist."

I think if we removed biographical subjects, religious views, and pointless "wedge issues" from candidate speeches and debates, there wouldn't be a single candidate able to speak convincingly.
You just explained why even atheists must care for religion nevertheless. Or in the words of this American atheist:




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Jeez...............is this debate still going on

Has any one suggested Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck yet ? :hmm:
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Jeez...............is this debate still going on

Has any one suggested Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck yet ? :hmm:
Yep, another debate on politics and religion again that goes around in circles. Rock on guys.
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Maturity breeds no reply's to the same old arguements ... Who's right and who's wrong?

I thought we were suppose to vote and state our case on why we voted for that particular person.

Sixteen votes for Hillary and hardly anyone stating why ... Let us not cast stones, but votes ...
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Jeez...............is this debate still going on

Has any one suggested Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck yet ? :hmm:
Yep, another debate on politics and religion again that goes around in circles. Rock on guys.
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