US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Oberon

http://www.areyousorryyet.com/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-vote-election

http://www.gallup.com/poll/201617/ga...-approval.aspx

The Guardian is the absolute worst. I'm not bothering with that link. Approval rating from gallop? Was Obama enjoying great ratings the entire 8 years? Disapproval does not indicate they are tired of Trump. The better question for gallop to ask is. "Are you tired of Trump? "

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

The Guardian is the absolute worst. I'm not bothering with that link. Approval rating from gallop? Was Obama enjoying great ratings the entire 8 years? Disapproval does not indicate they are tired of Trump. The better question for gallop to ask is. "Are you tired of Trump? "

There isn't going to be any point in discussing anything with you if you're going to dismiss any evidence contrary to your point.

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by Oberon

http://www.areyousorryyet.com/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-vote-election

http://www.gallup.com/poll/201617/ga...-approval.aspx

I will take your politically slanted polls and substitute these instead:

Job approval:

currently at 53%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._index_history

support for trump's travel ban

The Reuters/Ipsos poll found that 49 percent of Americans agreed with the order and 41 percent disagreed. Some 53 percent of Democrats said they "strongly disagree" with Trump's action while 51 percent of Republicans said they "strongly agree."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN15F2MG

its easy to cherry pick polls to support your PoV.

[Oberon]

And there it is, exactly what I knew would be said in response.


So there we have it. A reality for everyone.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

There isn't going to be any point in discussing anything with you if you're going to dismiss any evidence contrary to your point.

Approval ratings do not equate to people tired of Trump. And as I stated, The Guardian is crap.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Oberon

And there it is, exactly what I knew would be said in response.


So there we have it. A reality for everyone.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Oberon

And there it is, exactly what I knew would be said in response.


So there we have it. A reality for everyone.

And there we have what?

[Oberon]

A reality for everyone.

Perhaps we should put on the first post of this thread a list of acceptable news outlets and polling organisations.

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by Oberon

A reality for everyone.

Perhaps we should put on the first post of this thread a list of acceptable news outlets and polling organisations.

That is not the issue. The issue is that you want everyone to condemn Trump after just one week in office, not based on what he is doing but what he may do.

According most objective and/or conservative polls, pretty much all Trump voters are sticking with him so far. I saw on CBS saturday morning that his approval rating was 83% among Republicans and 7 % among Democrats.

Who knows, I may eventually turn against Trump, but it will be based on what he actually does in office, not based on some "unfounded fear" of what he might do.

No need to rush, he will be in office for the next 4 years at the very least, although he has already signaled that he will be running for re-election, so it could very well be 8 years.

p.s. - I did not support Obama in the 2008, but after he was elected, i did argue on this forum that he should be given a chance to govern. Actually, I recall that we did have several threads in 2009-2010 where some posters wanted Obama to be impeached immediately, so maybe things have not changed that much.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Oberon

A reality for everyone.

Perhaps we should put on the first post of this thread a list of acceptable news outlets and polling organisations.

I'm down with that!

[mapuc]

I must say, it have been a very interesting read the last few days.

I don't know how to explain my thoughts about Trump and those who put their vote on Trump (I have absolutely nothing against them, if you should wonder)

There's a reason why Trump became so famous or better so strong.

An anti-trump can always point his or her finger at a pro-trump person and call that person awful things BUT, if this those person(s) keep on doing this and not solve the problems USA may have, which made Trump so famous or strong, this or those person could very well face a Candidate that is worse than Trump in the future.

It's like a disease where the doctor only treat the pain but not the disease itself. (I do NOT see Trump or other as a disease, I just want to give a-forgot the word)

Markus

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I'm down with that!

Probably shorter and easier if we just list the acceptable outlets. I resubmit the list of Fox News, Rasmussen Polls, Breitbart and occasionally InfoWars.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Probably shorter and easier if we just list the acceptable outlets. I resubmit the list of Fox News, Rasmussen Polls, Breitbart and occasionally InfoWars.

Agreed. With exception of those you listed. They all suck. Especially Breitbart. Inforwars swallows.

I know you were being facetious.

What do you think of OAN (One American News)?

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Agreed. With exception of those you listed. They all suck. Especially Breitbart. Inforwars swallows.

I know you were being facetious.

What do you think of OAN (One American News)?

Never heard of it. I suspect it is a pro-Trump site since you're recommending it. Put it on the list, I am sure it's great.

[Bilge_Rat]

Blast from the past!!!!

post from 2010! what is the old saying, the more things change, the more they stay the same:

GR, actually I wanted McCain to win, but the american voters chose Obama and for better or worse, he is the president until jan. 20, 2013.

My point is more that impeachment should be reserved for outright iilegal conduct against the Constitution, conduct like Nixon's in 1972.

It's not healthy for a democracy to try to destroy its duly elected leaders just because you don't agree with their policies. Voters will get their chance to express their judgement in 2012.

Just remember that whatever Republicans pull against Obama, democrats wil be sure to do to the next Republican president.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...0&postcount=14

p.s. _ I see many of the usual suspects are still around almost 7 years later...no doubt heavier and with less hair.