What Are You Doing In Real Life II - Page 79

Jimbuna · 09-04-17, 01:44 PM

Just adding the finishing touches to my wedding speech....should be worth an Oscar

STEED · 09-04-17, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Just adding the finishing touches to my wedding speech....should be worth an Oscar

Here you go jim..

Aktungbby · 09-04-17, 03:51 PM

Smoke and storm-front abnormal humidity absolutely turning day into overcast haze; I had to wear hat and gloves to accommodate chilly 86 F.

(down from yesterdays 114F.) temperatures... otherwise a great labor Day!

Jimbuna · 09-06-17, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Here you go jim..

Probably closer to reality

STEED · 09-06-17, 08:32 AM

Cut the grass today and ironed my shirts and missed PMQ's, thank goodness for the Internet. I will watch later today with a mug of tea.

Eichhörnchen · 09-06-17, 01:15 PM

Well there won't be any internet for my son for the next 7 days; he came home and smashed his Lego Dimensions set on his bedroom floor because something had upset him on the school bus. After I told him he wasn't now getting his pocket-money visit to ASDA this week, he went and smashed a wine glass in the washing-up bowl.

His autism means he doesn't see consequences... he can't think in a linear way or understand narrative; a movie to him is just a series of exciting scenes, not a story. I asked him what he thought might happen if one of us had swallowed some of the glass and he said "Go to tip".

STEED · 09-06-17, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen

Well there won't be any internet for my son for the next 7 days; he came home and smashed his Lego Dimensions set on his bedroom floor because something had upset him on the school bus. After I told him he wasn't now getting his pocket-money visit to ASDA this week, he went and smashed a wine glass in the washing-up bowl.

His autism means he doesn't see consequences... he can't think in a linear way or understand narrative; a movie to him is just a series of exciting scenes, not a story. I asked him what he thought might happen if one of us had swallowed some of the glass and he said "Go to tip".

Sounds like you got your hands full there Eich.

STEED · 09-06-17, 02:51 PM

Relaxing listening to classical music I posted on the music thread while I am drinking a bottle of courage best bitter.

Commander Wallace · 09-07-17, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen

Well there won't be any internet for my son for the next 7 days; he came home and smashed his Lego Dimensions set on his bedroom floor because something had upset him on the school bus. After I told him he wasn't now getting his pocket-money visit to ASDA this week, he went and smashed a wine glass in the washing-up bowl.

His autism means he doesn't see consequences... he can't think in a linear way or understand narrative; a movie to him is just a series of exciting scenes, not a story. I asked him what he thought might happen if one of us had swallowed some of the glass and he said "Go to tip".

We have talked a little bit about this and you and Moira do well for what you have been handed. I'm not sure if this is the way to go this time. You said something upset him on the school bus and it may well be that others are bullying him on the bus and Lawrence is dealing with issues he is ill equipped to handle. Kids at that age can have a " pack mentality " and be really nasty and cruel to anyone they perceive as different.

His destruction of his Lego Dimension set shows he is dealing with some frustrating and traumatic issues. If this is the case, he needs to know that his home is a safe haven and that you have his back and understand him. Perhaps speak with the school and bus driver and ascertain what if anything has happened or continues to happen on the bus and go from there.

Dealing with Autism as long as you have, you know far more than most about this condition. If Autism in your case means Lawrence can't think in a linear fashion or understand consequences, then it may be better to deal with issues on his level. Just something to consider and help you put things in perspective. I'm sure Lawrence is doing the best he can under the circumstances.

Lawrence is the center of You and Moira's universe and I'm sure you will make the rights decisions regarding Lawrence as you and Moira always do. You are all dealing with issues most of us can't even imagine. Keep your head up.

Good luck my friend. We have your back too.

Eichhörnchen · 09-07-17, 09:41 AM

Thanks, CW. No it's not bullying... fortunately; these kids are so closely monitored that bullying just can't happen. One of the other kids had a meltdown and had to be carried off the bus. One of his problems... like a lot of these kids... is that if his routine is disrupted to any great degree (and the incident caused a half-hour delay) then he goes off on one. Maybe not right there and then either... Lawrence saves it all up for us when he gets home! But he has to know, like any naughty child, that really bad behaviour will result in loss of privileges (no beatings around here). He does know what he should and shouldn't do, though, and he knows that destructiveness will upset us, so he is making a choice when he breaks things. Believe me, I've already told Moira I feel bad for suspending his computer time for so long, but he's never done anything so potentially dangerous before now; breaking his own toys is only going to be a matter of stopped pocket-money for one weekend, but the wine glass thing... well...

Thanks for your kind words anyway, buddy

(Taken on 22 August at the beach)

PS: He's always gone to 'special' schools... infants, juniors and now seniors, but by his age a lot of the more able pupils have moved to more mainstream placements, leaving only the more severely affected ones. As a result, some of the kids at his school now are very severely disabled and it would have been one of these poor souls was the cause of all the fuss yesterday.

Commander Wallace · 09-07-17, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen

Thanks, CW. No it's not bullying... fortunately; these kids are so closely monitored that bullying just can't happen. One of the other kids had a meltdown and had to be carried off the bus. One of his problems... like a lot of these kids... is that if his routine is disrupted to any great degree (and the incident caused a half-hour delay) then he goes off on one. Maybe not right there and then either... Lawrence saves it all up for us when he gets home! But he has to know, like any naughty child, that really bad behaviour will result in loss of privileges (no beatings around here). He does know what he should and shouldn't do, though, and he knows that destructiveness will upset us, so he is making a choice when he breaks things. Believe me, I've already told Moira I feel bad for suspending his computer time for so long, but he's never done anything so potentially dangerous before now; breaking his own toys is only going to be a matter of stopped pocket-money for one weekend, but the wine glass thing... well...

Thanks for your kind words anyway, buddy

(Taken on 22 August at the beach)

PS: He's always gone to 'special' schools... infants, juniors and now seniors, but by his age a lot of the more able pupils have moved to more mainstream placements, leaving only the more severely affected ones. As a result, some of the kids at his school now are very severely disabled and it would have been one of these poor souls was the cause of all the fuss yesterday.

Ok. I was thinking he was on a regular bus. Years ago, Autism was really not known, identified or even talked about and a lot of these poor souls so afflicted were just drugged. These kids were harassed and bullied at school to a point that some never recovered. If Lawrence is on a bus with kids like himself, it doesn't rule out bullying but makes it perhaps less likely. All kids need discipline but wouldn't even have a guess as to how to approach your situation other than how you are already coping.

Knowing Lawrence as you do, I'm sure you're doing the right thing although I know you feel bad. Trust your instincts as to how to approach and resolve the issue. I'm guessing this is just a relatively minor hiccup regarding Lawrence. Lawrence trusts you as he should and you and your family will work it out. Keep your head up. It will all come together.

Eichhörnchen · 09-07-17, 04:05 PM

Thanks, mate. He is safe on the bus: it's just a minibus with a driver and a chaperone sitting with the kids, so no bullying possible. That is an issue if they get sent to mainstream schools, however, and well-meaning plans to send them to ordinary schools to help get them integrated and accepted can lead to absolute misery for some. We were given that choice at the start and nearly took it, except we couldn't get funding for full 1-to-1 care (and we were advised that's what he needed).

Mr Quatro · 09-07-17, 04:24 PM

Thank you for this opportunity to know you and your family better Eichhörnchen

It must be hard to deal with this problem and have all of the normal everyday problems the rest of us have to deal with too. Are you able to fellowship with other parents that have children with Autism? So you can network and share each others burdens.

May you have the strength to deal with this problem of Autism which I hear is growing, growing so much that prenatal testing has developed to be able to tell if the baby will have this problem and the parents are having abortions to prevent it's occurring ... over 98% chose this method in Iceland.

Eichhörnchen · 09-07-17, 04:40 PM

Thanks, buddy. Yes there are plenty of networking groups to be found as you progress through the schools, and the great thing is you get to relax at events and places where no-one is staring at your kid's odd behaviour... because they're all in the same situation.

It does all mean that our future is pretty much a black hole, though. What will happen to him we don't know... we try not to think about it and take things one stage at a time.

STEED · 09-08-17, 07:33 AM

Full house at work tonight, just hope it stops raining when I set off later.

09-04-17, 01:44 PM	#1171
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09-04-17, 03:51 PM	#1173
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 27,955 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Smoke and storm-front abnormal humidity absolutely turning day into overcast haze; I had to wear hat and gloves to accommodate chilly 86 F. (down from yesterdays 114F.) temperatures... otherwise a great labor Day! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"

09-06-17, 08:32 AM	#1175
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Cut the grass today and ironed my shirts and missed PMQ's, thank goodness for the Internet. I will watch later today with a mug of tea. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

09-06-17, 01:15 PM	#1176
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 15,780 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Well there won't be any internet for my son for the next 7 days; he came home and smashed his Lego Dimensions set on his bedroom floor because something had upset him on the school bus. After I told him he wasn't now getting his pocket-money visit to ASDA this week, he went and smashed a wine glass in the washing-up bowl. His autism means he doesn't see consequences... he can't think in a linear way or understand narrative; a movie to him is just a series of exciting scenes, not a story. I asked him what he thought might happen if one of us had swallowed some of the glass and he said "Go to tip". __________________

09-06-17, 02:51 PM	#1178
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Relaxing listening to classical music I posted on the music thread while I am drinking a bottle of courage best bitter. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

09-07-17, 09:41 AM	#1180
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 15,780 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Thanks, CW. No it's not bullying... fortunately; these kids are so closely monitored that bullying just can't happen. One of the other kids had a meltdown and had to be carried off the bus. One of his problems... like a lot of these kids... is that if his routine is disrupted to any great degree (and the incident caused a half-hour delay) then he goes off on one. Maybe not right there and then either... Lawrence saves it all up for us when he gets home! But he has to know, like any naughty child, that really bad behaviour will result in loss of privileges (no beatings around here). He does know what he should and shouldn't do, though, and he knows that destructiveness will upset us, so he is making a choice when he breaks things. Believe me, I've already told Moira I feel bad for suspending his computer time for so long, but he's never done anything so potentially dangerous before now; breaking his own toys is only going to be a matter of stopped pocket-money for one weekend, but the wine glass thing... well... Thanks for your kind words anyway, buddy (Taken on 22 August at the beach) PS: He's always gone to 'special' schools... infants, juniors and now seniors, but by his age a lot of the more able pupils have moved to more mainstream placements, leaving only the more severely affected ones. As a result, some of the kids at his school now are very severely disabled and it would have been one of these poor souls was the cause of all the fuss yesterday. __________________ Last edited by Eichhörnchen; 09-07-17 at 10:22 AM.

09-07-17, 04:05 PM	#1182
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 15,780 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Thanks, mate. He is safe on the bus: it's just a minibus with a driver and a chaperone sitting with the kids, so no bullying possible. That is an issue if they get sent to mainstream schools, however, and well-meaning plans to send them to ordinary schools to help get them integrated and accepted can lead to absolute misery for some. We were given that choice at the start and nearly took it, except we couldn't get funding for full 1-to-1 care (and we were advised that's what he needed). __________________

09-07-17, 04:24 PM	#1183
Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thank you for this opportunity to know you and your family better Eichhörnchen It must be hard to deal with this problem and have all of the normal everyday problems the rest of us have to deal with too. Are you able to fellowship with other parents that have children with Autism? So you can network and share each others burdens. May you have the strength to deal with this problem of Autism which I hear is growing, growing so much that prenatal testing has developed to be able to tell if the baby will have this problem and the parents are having abortions to prevent it's occurring ... over 98% chose this method in Iceland. __________________ pla•teau noun a relatively stable level, period, or condition a level of attainment or achievement Lord help me get to the next plateau ..

09-07-17, 04:40 PM	#1184
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 15,780 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Thanks, buddy. Yes there are plenty of networking groups to be found as you progress through the schools, and the great thing is you get to relax at events and places where no-one is staring at your kid's odd behaviour... because they're all in the same situation. It does all mean that our future is pretty much a black hole, though. What will happen to him we don't know... we try not to think about it and take things one stage at a time. __________________

09-08-17, 07:33 AM	#1185
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Full house at work tonight, just hope it stops raining when I set off later. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!