Strike on North Korea - Page 77

THE_MASK · 05-14-18, 01:29 PM

China is up to something .

vienna · 05-14-18, 01:37 PM

I still think Xi is striving to make Trump's meet with Kim as much of a 'non-event' as possible, denying Trump anything of significant political value, internationally or domestically...

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Rockstar · 05-14-18, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sober

China is up to something .

Ya think?

The greatest victory is that which requires no battle. - Sun Tzu

http://www.atimes.com/article/what-c...m-north-korea/

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Beijing's desire for stability has played a bigger role than recognized in Kim Jong-un's volte-face decision to negotiate his nuclear position By Bertil Lintner May 7, 2018 3:17 PM (UTC+8)

... Stronger economic links between the South and North would serve China’s strategic interest of stability on the peninsula. At the same time, China wants to maintain and expand its influence over the North Korean regime, which recent events demonstrate that it still has. A détente between the North and South would also give China a chance to drive a wedge between Washington and Seoul.

South Korea has stated that it wants US troops to stay, but if there is a peace treaty there would no longer be any excuse to maintain them or the THAAD deployment to protect against North Korean missiles. Maintaining THAAD after a peace deal would give Beijing ammunition to call America’s bluff and claim that THAAD was part of an attempt to encircle China. THAAD is a contentious issue in South Korea. When Moon came to power he put the deployment of four additional THAAD launchers on hold. He moved ahead with their deployment only after North Korea’s July 2017 test launch of an intercontinental ballistic missile capable of reaching mainland America.

In the long run, the broader question of why the US would have to maintain troops in South Korea would inevitably be an issue if a peace treaty was signed between the two Koreas. And if a peace treaty is not forged, somebody — most likely the US — would be blamed for intransigence. Seen from that perspective, China and North Korea may emerge as bigger winners than the US if the upcoming talks achieve less than many now anticipate and hope.

Reece · 05-14-18, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sober

China is up to something .

Definitely, and not good imo.

Great to see you are still sober!

em2nought · 05-15-18, 12:52 AM

Empires rise and fall

Jimbuna · 05-15-18, 05:26 AM

Can't say I trust China any more than NK.

Mr Quatro · 05-15-18, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by vienna

I still think Xi is striving to make Trump's meet with Kim as much of a 'non-event' as possible, denying Trump anything of significant political value, internationally or domestically...

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Admit it vienna you've been wrong before

This peace thingy is going to happen ... Kim wants his country to enjoy prosperity and open a Mcdonald's restaurant too

Trump will come home a hero and win the Nobel peace prize and then get kicked out of office by Mueller's investigation team.

Warning: I also have been wrong before

vienna · 05-15-18, 04:15 PM

"This peace thingy is going to happen"....

Well, maybe, maybe not:

North Korea threatens to cancel summit with Trump over military drills --

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.e1b8b02f5481

North Korea Postpones Talks With South, Hinting Kim-Trump Summit Is in Peril --

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/15/w...nes-talks.html

Trump may wind up all dressed up with no place to go...

This kind of leaves the optics as Trump and the US being the cause of the possible cancellation if Trump persists in continuing with the exercises, maybe not a fair characterization, but its the one that NK & CN will push internationally. Now, let's see in Donny takes the bait...

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Jimbuna · 05-16-18, 06:11 AM

It sounds to me like NK want to keep those weapons it already has but may be willing to cease production of any additional weapons

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44134910

Reece · 05-16-18, 06:21 AM

Yeh so much for Kim's denuclearization, keep the sanctions going guys!!

vienna · 05-16-18, 12:32 PM

I'm still absolutely sure Trump won't get the Nobel Peace Prize this year...

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Skybird · 05-16-18, 05:47 PM

Diplomacy is war with other means.

vienna · 05-16-18, 07:15 PM

I thought Diplomacy was the art of telling someone to go to hell in a way such as they would look forward to the trip...

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u crank · 05-16-18, 07:19 PM

Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.

-Will Rogers

Reece · 05-16-18, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna

I thought Diplomacy was the art of telling someone to go to hell in a way such as they would look forward to the trip...

05-14-18, 01:37 PM	#1142
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,720 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I still think Xi is striving to make Trump's meet with Kim as much of a 'non-event' as possible, denying Trump anything of significant political value, internationally or domestically... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

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em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,485 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Empires rise and fall __________________ em2nought is ecstatic garbage!

05-15-18, 05:26 AM	#1146
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,876 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Can't say I trust China any more than NK. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

05-15-18, 04:15 PM	#1148
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,720 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	"This peace thingy is going to happen".... Well, maybe, maybe not: North Korea threatens to cancel summit with Trump over military drills -- https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.e1b8b02f5481 North Korea Postpones Talks With South, Hinting Kim-Trump Summit Is in Peril -- https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/15/w...nes-talks.html Trump may wind up all dressed up with no place to go... This kind of leaves the optics as Trump and the US being the cause of the possible cancellation if Trump persists in continuing with the exercises, maybe not a fair characterization, but its the one that NK & CN will push internationally. Now, let's see in Donny takes the bait... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

05-16-18, 06:11 AM	#1149
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,876 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	It sounds to me like NK want to keep those weapons it already has but may be willing to cease production of any additional weapons http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44134910 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

05-14-18, 01:29 PM	#1141
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	China is up to something .

05-16-18, 06:21 AM	#1150
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,785 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Yeh so much for Kim's denuclearization, keep the sanctions going guys!! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

05-16-18, 12:32 PM	#1151
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,720 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I'm still absolutely sure Trump won't get the Nobel Peace Prize this year... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

05-16-18, 05:47 PM	#1152
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,708 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Diplomacy is war with other means. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

05-16-18, 07:15 PM	#1153
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,720 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I thought Diplomacy was the art of telling someone to go to hell in a way such as they would look forward to the trip... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

05-16-18, 07:19 PM	#1154
u crank Old enough to know better Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Prince Edward Island Posts: 11,748 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. -Will Rogers __________________ “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” ― Arthur C. Clarke