US Politics Thread 2016-2020 - Page 753

VipertheSniper · 11-11-20, 06:30 PM

the trouble with that mindset is that you only have 2 parties that realistically have a shot at governing, so where does that leave you? Holding those grudges forever and going to ever greater extremes to spite the "other"? Somebody needs to make a start somewhere to get back to something resembling a middle ground.

skidman · 11-11-20, 06:51 PM

Obviously both parties have to go through a process of transformation:

The GOP has to realize that small state, neoliberal tax and money system, guns, no abortion, evangelical christianity, and creationism (pick at least 3) is not enough to make America great again. The recipes of the past simply do not work anymore. The American Dream is dead.

The DEMs have to realize that identity politics kills democracy. They have to come up with a new narrative that provides a set of ideas of how to deal with new emerging super powers, how to stop immiseration of a ever growing portion of the population, and accept that these ideas will be called communism by the usual idiots.

Torvald Von Mansee · 11-12-20, 01:07 AM

I thought this was rather interesting:

https://jspp.psychopen.eu/article/view/750/html

nikimcbee · 11-12-20, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by u crank

Do we have to wear masks?

I just got a new Iron Maiden Aces High Eddie mask, I'm ready.

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Originally Posted by August

Oh yeah right Ferret.

Not old school enough, I remember when he was a wee ostrich.

Dowly · 11-12-20, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by VipertheSniper

the trouble with that mindset is that you only have 2 parties that realistically have a shot at governing, so where does that leave you? Holding those grudges forever and going to ever greater extremes to spite the "other"? Somebody needs to make a start somewhere to get back to something resembling a middle ground.

Very much this.

Skybird · 11-12-20, 06:52 AM

Stomps-with-his-feet continues to sabotage transition to president-elect whereever he can.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/11/p...ges/index.html

Instead of Hydroxicloroquine his drugger should set him on Paliperidon, me thinks.

With Pompeo another escaped psychiatric patient has been identified in the WH hospital. Suffering from severe reality distortion and episodes of delusion, his mind lives in an alternate fantasy world where Trump has won the election! Poor dog, I hope he finds the treatment he needs. And take those Philip K. Dick books away from the patient.

Jimbuna · 11-12-20, 09:03 AM

Posted by an American I know who actually voted for Trump

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It now seems as if the Dictator's henchmen---presumably on his orders---are blocking Biden from seeing correspondence offering congratulations from foreign leaders which were sent to the State Department. How small and petty. Also, government funds that are traditionally given to the POTUS'-elect's transition team are being withheld--to make things tougher on them and Biden is not being allowed to get the daily intelligence briefings that all newly elected POTUS have always had access to because it's important for them to know what's going on so they can react quickly in the case of emergency once they assume office. I assume that next year the Orange Man will whine and cry if he's left off Biden's Christmas card list---"How unfair, how unfair---sob, sob". I can hear it now.

AVGWarhawk · 11-12-20, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Oh yes, can't agree more. Although I am perfectly willing to start fresh right now, give Biden a fair chance, and see if we can get this country back on track.

Sure, I'll give Biden a far shake. He has a lot to fix that his party assisted in breaking in the past 4 years. I'm not talking about policy either.

AVGWarhawk · 11-12-20, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Posted by an American I know who actually voted for Trump

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It now seems as if the Dictator's henchmen---presumably on his orders---are blocking Biden from seeing correspondence offering congratulations from foreign leaders which were sent to the State Department. How small and petty. Also, government funds that are traditionally given to the POTUS'-elect's transition team are being withheld--to make things tougher on them and Biden is not being allowed to get the daily intelligence briefings that all newly elected POTUS have always had access to because it's important for them to know what's going on so they can react quickly in the case of emergency once they assume office.

Don't believe any of this.

mapuc · 11-12-20, 10:37 AM

Can't find the word I need in this statement.

You, my American friends take this voting very serious. The responsibility you feel for you county is so massive that you even do your duty after you have died.

I take my hat of in respect.

Markus

Catfish · 11-12-20, 10:48 AM

^ Lol
Just in case you are not joking, where is your evidence? Trump says so?

"Trump's refusal to concede has prompted senior officials across the government to spread word that any cooperation with Biden's team is forbidden, officials at agencies and the White House said. The President's budget office is continuing to advise agencies to prepare submissions for Trump's upcoming budget proposal as if nothing is changing, people familiar with the plans said.

The White House, while offering little formal or explicit guidance, has nonetheless made known throughout the federal government that no steps should be taken that would imply Trump lost the election, according to people familiar with the matter.

The nation's top diplomat [what? lol] , Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, refused to accept Biden's victory as President-elect during remarks at the State Department. Instead, he said there would be "a smooth transition to a second Trump administration."

Can't make this up

Mr Quatro · 11-12-20, 11:03 AM

Biden is not the POTUS yet ... so who cares?

Still waiting for the governor of each state to receive the final count from it's elected college electoral votes that are suppose to go to the victor, but that won't be till December 14th and even then Biden is not the POTUS.

The next step is for the governor of each state has to report to Congress it's final count January 6th and Biden still is not the POTUS until he is sworn in on January 20th 2021 and then he will be come the next POTUS.

Until then President Trump can do all and anything that he wants to do ... so quit your crying and your self righteousness and see that the fat lady has not had her turn yet.

How fat is Hillary anyway?

mapuc · 11-12-20, 11:16 AM

^^ It has been in the news here, where they talked about registret votes who in fact was dead.
Hearing this i remember thinking..the Americans is taking the word duty to a whole new level.

Markus

Buddahaid · 11-12-20, 11:18 AM

And if after all the recounting and such Biden still wins then what? I doubt Trump will concede defeat.

AVGWarhawk · 11-12-20, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

And if after all the recounting and such Biden still wins then what? I doubt Trump will concede defeat.

Trump will concede. But I don't blame the guy for requesting investigations. This is nothing new in the large scheme of things.

11-11-20, 06:51 PM	#11282
skidman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Near the Dutch mountains Posts: 1,147 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Obviously both parties have to go through a process of transformation: The GOP has to realize that small state, neoliberal tax and money system, guns, no abortion, evangelical christianity, and creationism (pick at least 3) is not enough to make America great again. The recipes of the past simply do not work anymore. The American Dream is dead. The DEMs have to realize that identity politics kills democracy. They have to come up with a new narrative that provides a set of ideas of how to deal with new emerging super powers, how to stop immiseration of a ever growing portion of the population, and accept that these ideas will be called communism by the usual idiots. __________________ "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.” (Douglas Adams)

11-12-20, 01:07 AM	#11283
Torvald Von Mansee Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CA4528 Posts: 1,676 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I thought this was rather interesting: https://jspp.psychopen.eu/article/view/750/html __________________ "You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you" - Leon Trotsky

11-12-20, 06:52 AM	#11286
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,710 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Stomps-with-his-feet continues to sabotage transition to president-elect whereever he can. https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/11/p...ges/index.html Instead of Hydroxicloroquine his drugger should set him on Paliperidon, me thinks. With Pompeo another escaped psychiatric patient has been identified in the WH hospital. Suffering from severe reality distortion and episodes of delusion, his mind lives in an alternate fantasy world where Trump has won the election! Poor dog, I hope he finds the treatment he needs. And take those Philip K. Dick books away from the patient. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

11-12-20, 10:48 AM	#11291
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,926 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ Lol Just in case you are not joking, where is your evidence? Trump says so? "Trump's refusal to concede has prompted senior officials across the government to spread word that any cooperation with Biden's team is forbidden, officials at agencies and the White House said. The President's budget office is continuing to advise agencies to prepare submissions for Trump's upcoming budget proposal as if nothing is changing, people familiar with the plans said. The White House, while offering little formal or explicit guidance, has nonetheless made known throughout the federal government that no steps should be taken that would imply Trump lost the election, according to people familiar with the matter. The nation's top diplomat [what? lol] , Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, refused to accept Biden's victory as President-elect during remarks at the State Department. Instead, he said there would be "a smooth transition to a second Trump administration." Can't make this up __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

11-12-20, 11:03 AM	#11292
Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Biden is not the POTUS yet ... so who cares? Still waiting for the governor of each state to receive the final count from it's elected college electoral votes that are suppose to go to the victor, but that won't be till December 14th and even then Biden is not the POTUS. The next step is for the governor of each state has to report to Congress it's final count January 6th and Biden still is not the POTUS until he is sworn in on January 20th 2021 and then he will be come the next POTUS. Until then President Trump can do all and anything that he wants to do ... so quit your crying and your self righteousness and see that the fat lady has not had her turn yet. How fat is Hillary anyway? __________________ pla•teau noun a relatively stable level, period, or condition a level of attainment or achievement Lord help me get to the next plateau ..

11-11-20, 06:30 PM	#11281
VipertheSniper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Austria Posts: 1,035 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	the trouble with that mindset is that you only have 2 parties that realistically have a shot at governing, so where does that leave you? Holding those grudges forever and going to ever greater extremes to spite the "other"? Somebody needs to make a start somewhere to get back to something resembling a middle ground.

11-12-20, 10:37 AM	#11290
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 18,232 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Can't find the word I need in this statement. You, my American friends take this voting very serious. The responsibility you feel for you county is so massive that you even do your duty after you have died. I take my hat of in respect. Markus

11-12-20, 11:16 AM	#11293
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 18,232 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	^^ It has been in the news here, where they talked about registret votes who in fact was dead. Hearing this i remember thinking..the Americans is taking the word duty to a whole new level. Markus

11-12-20, 11:18 AM	#11294
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,577 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	And if after all the recounting and such Biden still wins then what? I doubt Trump will concede defeat. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie