UK Politics Thread - Page 750

Jimbuna · 10-06-19, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

And sometimes the wall proves to be thicker than the head slamming against it. The revelations before that scottish court that the govenrment will ask for a delay, have left him wepainless in Brussel. Brussels now has even less any reason to accept anything. The only hope is that some EU nation's head of state indeed is so pissed now and blocks any EU agreeing to a delay. The agreeing on a delay must be unanimously. Maybe Johnson can provoke an according incident.

Or the letter is carefully worded to fit in with his plan for a general election.

STEED · 10-06-19, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

some EU nation's head of state indeed is so pissed now and blocks any EU agreeing to a delay. The agreeing on a delay must be unanimously. Maybe Johnson can provoke an according incident.

This idea has been banded about like appointing Nigel in some sort of position to rub up the EU the wrong way. Even agreeing to a another delay but with holding our weekly payment to the EU.

Jimbuna · 10-06-19, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

This idea has been banded about like appointing Nigel in some sort of position to rub up the EU the wrong way. Even agreeing to a another delay but with holding our weekly payment to the EU.

Not possible....a breach of an international treaty.

STEED · 10-06-19, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Not possible....a breach of an international treaty.

The way Bojo is going I would not put anything pass him. As for the Nigel idea I don't think he would fall for it being used as a shield for the tories.

Jimbuna · 10-06-19, 07:29 AM

There is still a way and I posted that way a few days ago but Boris is playing his cards close to his chest, especially in light of what he is up against in Parliament.

Skybird · 10-06-19, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Or the letter is carefully worded to fit in with his plan for a general election.

If the claims from Scotland that he is ready to ask for a delay is true, then elections probably were his bet fro
m beginning on.

Jimbuna · 10-06-19, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

If the claims from Scotland that he is ready to ask for a delay is true, then elections probably were his bet fro
m beginning on.

I think in all fairness to everyone, every base possibility has been mentioned so whatever happens next, someone will be saying "told you so" but that will only be with the benefit of hindsight.

STEED · 10-07-19, 05:46 AM

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Blackford: SNP to demand indyref2 in return for supporting Labour government

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-49951259

Cracks between SNP and Labour will spell the end to the nameless one dream of power, thank goodness.

On the brexit front that french ponce has said we should know by the end of the week deal or no deal.

MGR1 · 10-07-19, 06:05 AM

Labour does have a major problem when it comes to dealing with the SNP - it's Scottish Branch Office!

Look up "the Bain Principle" and it'll tell you a lot why SLab is in the state it is.

Moving on to economics, another article from BBC Scotland's Douglas Fraser:

Lumpy London, Scottish spread.

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Foreign investment into the UK is showing signs of slowing up, and as uncertainty grows, it is ever more concentrated on London.

A new report shows Scotland has done better than other parts of the UK in spreading economic benefit beyond the cities and into towns and villages.
Universities play a large part in drawing foreign investment, and may explain a recent surge in the number of projects going into Scottish core cities.

This should help explain at least part of the reason as to why devolution is popular up here.

In the meantime, Ruth Davidson has elected to step down as an MSP after her term is up:

Scottish Conservatives: Ruth Davidson unlikely to seek re-election.

I wonder if an eventual move to the Republic of Ireland is on the cards - her partner's Irish.

It will be very interesting to see how the Scottish Conservatives fare when it comes to both a UK General Election and the next Holyrood one.

Mike.

STEED · 10-07-19, 06:14 AM

^If as it seems the SNP is on the rise again I suspect the Tories will loose a number of seats as Labour will, who will loose the most no idea until the election.

Jimbuna · 10-07-19, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-49951259

Cracks between SNP and Labour will spell the end to the nameless one dream of power, thank goodness.

On the brexit front that french ponce has said we should know by the end of the week deal or no deal.

I've always said a break up of the Union will only make each country weaker but if the majority of any member country wish it then so be it but only under one proviso....they take with them their fair proportionate share of the national debt which would have to be mutually agreed by all parties concerned.

I don't think it correct that you refer to a countries leader with such a term, I would certainly object to such terminology being levelled at my monarch for example.

Harmless humour is always welcome of course.

Jimbuna · 10-07-19, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MGR1

It will be very interesting to see how the Scottish Conservatives fare when it comes to both a UK General Election and the next Holyrood one.

Mike.

Quite possible they could be wiped out.

Jimbuna · 10-07-19, 08:27 AM

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A Scottish judge has dismissed a move to force Boris Johnson to comply with a law aimed at avoiding a no-deal Brexit.

Campaigners had wanted to ensure that the prime minister would write to the EU to request an extension if no deal is in place by 19 October.

They argued that statements made by the government showed that it could not be trusted.

But Lord Pentland said there "can be no doubt" that the prime minister had agreed to abide by the law.

As a result, he said there was no need for "coercive orders" against the UK government or against the prime minister.

One of the petitioners, Jo Maugham QC, said the decision would be appealed.

He said the ruling has left Mr Johnson with "wriggle room".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-49959167

I must admit to being a little surprised at the ruling.

Skybird · 10-07-19, 10:46 AM

Naivety, disconnection from reality - it does not stop at a court hall's door. The judge's explanation left me giggling.

Jimbuna · 10-07-19, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Naivety, disconnection from reality - it does not stop at a court hall's door. The judge's explanation left me giggling.

It does look like Boris is going to be compliant though, I have just had the opportunity to see the draft of the letter he will be sending to President Tusk.

10-06-19, 07:29 AM	#11240
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,539 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	There is still a way and I posted that way a few days ago but Boris is playing his cards close to his chest, especially in light of what he is up against in Parliament. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	^If as it seems the SNP is on the rise again I suspect the Tories will loose a number of seats as Labour will, who will loose the most no idea until the election. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

10-07-19, 10:46 AM	#11249
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,630 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Naivety, disconnection from reality - it does not stop at a court hall's door. The judge's explanation left me giggling. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.