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10-05-19, 08:43 AM | #11221 |
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10-05-19, 10:27 AM | #11222 |
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POLL OF POLLS
Going up Cons and the LibDems Going Down Lab and Brx Bouncing along SNP https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49798197
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10-05-19, 11:55 AM | #11223 |
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It takes two to dance.
Why haven't EU set a deadline ? So far it have only been the UK who have said they are going or hope they will leave 31 October. Why haven't EU said something similar- Ok UK whatever deal we may agree on, your result of the referendum stand clear-you leave October 31. Markus |
10-05-19, 01:49 PM | #11224 | |
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10-05-19, 02:59 PM | #11225 |
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^ which would be a typical "The Sun" answer, packing all the blame on the EU. If you followed the last two years and what happened in UK politics, the answer is probably not quite as easy.
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10-05-19, 04:22 PM | #11226 |
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I can't say if Skybird's response to my comment is a typical "The Sun" answer
The question would rather be Is he correct in what he wrote-That it is not in EU's interest to let UK leave ? Markus |
10-05-19, 04:34 PM | #11227 |
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^ States and supranational organisations have interests, and these cost money. The UK is the second biggest economy in the block, and the sixth largest economy in the world (after US, China, Japan, Germany, India). If you were the EU, mapuc, you would not let them go, too. Not if you can prevent them by any means. Without the UK, the economic weight of the block on the diplomatic parquet is significantly lighter. And there is a risk that they become kind of a beachead of more US influence in Europe (though I think the UK wojuld be stuipdiu to build its new domicile on grounds of trust in Trump, but they may have no other choice in the forseeable future).
Also, as I often said,m the EU fears that the UK could be successful in the long run, doing better, at least doing good without the EU. This would be a dangerous example. A precednece that shows others that their is a life beyond the EU, and that one can successfully leave the EU. This demonstration must be prevented at any cost. Either by preventing a leave, or by preventing prospering of the UK after a leave. The UK doing well and successful, is the worst case scenario for the EU. I recall that some months ago, earlier this year, there were even leaked documents from two years ago or so showing that high diplomats at the EU more or less voiced exactly this ^. I think I linked it back then. Brexoit for the UK shall not be a suzccess for the UK, was the dominant premisse. Only the EU can give success and wellness, that is the narration in the block. Well, a few states that never became members in the first prove the opposite, but usually they get no news coverage for that in the media.
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10-05-19, 04:48 PM | #11228 |
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^ That is true
No one can say how good or bad it will go for UK after they have left the building. Furthermore if as you wrote, if it goes very well for UK after they have left, it could give other countries or people hope and a domino effect could be rolling. Right now no other members(read European politicians) are frighten so they do not dare to think it-Shall we leave EU. This due to this comedy we are witness to in mostly UK. Markus |
10-06-19, 03:16 AM | #11229 |
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Sure but all the Brexit drama, has not been caused by the EU, its pretty much been caused internally here.
Because we have majority Leaver population and majority Remainer Parliament. The EU has not been unreasonable do far, Out of self preservation, they ultimately don't really want us to leave at all, or they want us to leave with a deal more or less set on their terms, or in the case of hard Brexit, they will hope it goes badly for us so that other Skeptic member states will think twice. I don't hold anything against them for that. they are perfectly entitled to look out for their own interests. Anyone else would be doing the same. |
10-06-19, 05:12 AM | #11230 |
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Can't disagree with the above sentiments in the previous posts.
Much depends on which side you support.
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10-06-19, 05:15 AM | #11231 | |
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10-06-19, 06:11 AM | #11232 | |
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10-06-19, 06:50 AM | #11233 |
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Bojo has told us sod sweet all and how the heck is he going to leave the EU without a deal and breaking the law.
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10-06-19, 07:00 AM | #11234 |
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Where there is a will there is usually a way.
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10-06-19, 07:08 AM | #11235 |
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And sometimes the wall proves to be thicker than the head slamming against it. The revelations before that scottish court that the govenrment will ask for a delay, have left him wepainless in Brussel. Brussels now has even less any reason to accept anything. The only hope is that some EU nation's head of state indeed is so pissed now and blocks any EU agreeing to a delay. The agreeing on a delay must be unanimously. Maybe Johnson can provoke an according incident.
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