(REL) Pacific enviroment/ROW/Leovampire and Kriller2 - Page 74

leovampire · 11-01-07, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swdw

Leo,

Since you need to mod the sub's .sim files to get some of your effects, and after the PM's on CoG, I was wondering . . .

It looks like ROW will be the controlling mod for other mods to a certain extent. So I'm thinking it would be better to follow Ducimus' idea and have RFB install over the top of ROW. So any files overwritten by RFB will need to have your changes in them included with the RFB changes.

Are the mods you're doing to the subs basically the same straight across the board? Will looking at one .sim file show what values the parameters need to be changed to in the others? Or, have you had to customize them for each sub.

Because of the changes in the zones files, I was wondering if there may need to be 2 RFB releases- a stock version (Basic RFB) and a ROW compatible version. What is your opinion on that?

Also, are you doing anything to the operational values in the various sub files?

Thanks for the work- looking forward to getting my replacement MB back so I can actually see what you've posted lately in operation. (Turns out US ABit is moving their entire facility right now, so this is delaying everything . . . Old desktop has a 1.3GHz proc and an ATI 8500- can't run SH4)

I PM'ed Ducimus to find out what he did to the sim file's for the sub's first then added my small change to them after applying his changes. To try and make them compatable.

As to the DAT file's for the sub's for the reflection's and caustics I first started with the DAT file's from Kapitan_zur_see's work because I do not know how to do what he did it is 100 time's more complicated and time consumming. When he produces more finished sub's for the bubble's I will update the reflection work from them. He used a program to get the corordinate's for each limber hole on the sub to add the bubble point's from there.

There is no way to adap every single mod out there into these file's you just do the best you can and try not to piss people off by making them lose the effect's they wanted and chose for their own game.

I am trying to make as many choices as possable in the work to accomidate other mod's out there hence the work I have to finish for the zone's file. One for the stock game one for T.M. and maybe one for RFB if I can get to it.

You are at a total disadvatage here because you can not test a single thing you do to make sure it work's okay in game and will have to rely on others to tell you what is wrong. And that isn't going to go over very good unless you have testers that don't care about playing the game.

I try to be as accomidating as possable to the comunity but I can not please everyone nor will I go out of my way to try because 16 hours a day work is enough for me and it still take's time to do it all.

Example open up any ship dat file in the game and find every node that handles the reflections there are a lot of them then there is testing to make sure it looks act's and work's good.

I just care about the graffic's end of this mod if people like it and it work's well in game. I gave up on the actual game play stuff because too many people are making change's for me to keep up.

Ducimus and Berry make the changes they want and like for their mod's and use what they want at least the way Lurker_hlb3 does his work it dosn't interfear with mine he isn't interested in getting into this part of the game work so his stuff work's 100% with our's. So only Lurker allows people to make their own choices for other mod's with out problem's and conflict's. If I had a choice about it I would just take the stock stuff and make my changes but it isn't always possable to do.

As to the sub reflections yes they are the same accross the board and so are the caustic's and Center Gravity effect change.

This mod will probably be the last of my modding work for a couple of reasons. Number one I would like to go back to enjoying the game for a change more than working on it. Number 2 I am dieing and have no idea how long I have so eventualy someone will have to take up the work and continue on from where I and the others leave off. This is why I am working so hard to get it done and out where everyone is happy including myself. So my limitaions on accomidating everyone and extending into new work is reaching a point where I am not only not interested in doing it but might not even be capable of taking it further. Everyday I wake up is a surprise and a blessing right now so I am working hard to do as much as I can as fast as I can.

Kpt. Lehmann · 11-01-07, 01:59 AM

I don't know how anyone could ask anything more of you Leovampire.

You've given us an awesome bit of work. Thank you. I'm sure all here feel that same gratitude.

By all means enjoy it.

Life is too short... and this is too easy to forget.

Prientje · 11-01-07, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leovampire

Quote:

Originally Posted by swdw

Leo,

Since you need to mod the sub's .sim files to get some of your effects, and after the PM's on CoG, I was wondering . . .

It looks like ROW will be the controlling mod for other mods to a certain extent. So I'm thinking it would be better to follow Ducimus' idea and have RFB install over the top of ROW. So any files overwritten by RFB will need to have your changes in them included with the RFB changes.

Are the mods you're doing to the subs basically the same straight across the board? Will looking at one .sim file show what values the parameters need to be changed to in the others? Or, have you had to customize them for each sub.

Because of the changes in the zones files, I was wondering if there may need to be 2 RFB releases- a stock version (Basic RFB) and a ROW compatible version. What is your opinion on that?

Also, are you doing anything to the operational values in the various sub files?

Thanks for the work- looking forward to getting my replacement MB back so I can actually see what you've posted lately in operation. (Turns out US ABit is moving their entire facility right now, so this is delaying everything . . . Old desktop has a 1.3GHz proc and an ATI 8500- can't run SH4)

I PM'ed Ducimus to find out what he did to the sim file's for the sub's first then added my small change to them after applying his changes. To try and make them compatable.

As to the DAT file's for the sub's for the reflection's and caustics I first started with the DAT file's from Kapitan_zur_see's work because I do not know how to do what he did it is 100 time's more complicated and time consumming. When he produces more finished sub's for the bubble's I will update the reflection work from them. He used a program to get the corordinate's for each limber hole on the sub to add the bubble point's from there.

There is no way to adap every single mod out there into these file's you just do the best you can and try not to piss people off by making them lose the effect's they wanted and chose for their own game.

I am trying to make as many choices as possable in the work to accomidate other mod's out there hence the work I have to finish for the zone's file. One for the stock game one for T.M. and maybe one for RFB if I can get to it.

You are at a total disadvatage here because you can not test a single thing you do to make sure it work's okay in game and will have to rely on others to tell you what is wrong. And that isn't going to go over very good unless you have testers that don't care about playing the game.

I try to be as accomidating as possable to the comunity but I can not please everyone nor will I go out of my way to try because 16 hours a day work is enough for me and it still take's time to do it all.

Example open up any ship dat file in the game and find every node that handles the reflections there are a lot of them then there is testing to make sure it looks act's and work's good.

I just care about the graffic's end of this mod if people like it and it work's well in game. I gave up on the actual game play stuff because too many people are making change's for me to keep up.

Ducimus and Berry make the changes they want and like for their mod's and use what they want at least the way Lurker_hlb3 does his work it dosn't interfear with mine he isn't interested in getting into this part of the game work so his stuff work's 100% with our's. So only Lurker allows people to make their own choices for other mod's with out problem's and conflict's. If I had a choice about it I would just take the stock stuff and make my changes but it isn't always possable to do.

As to the sub reflections yes they are the same accross the board and so are the caustic's and Center Gravity effect change.

This mod will probably be the last of my modding work for a couple of reasons. Number one I would like to go back to enjoying the game for a change more than working on it. Number 2 I am dieing and have no idea how long I have so eventualy someone will have to take up the work and continue on from where I and the others leave off. This is why I am working so hard to get it done and out where everyone is happy including myself. So my limitaions on accomidating everyone and extending into new work is reaching a point where I am not only not interested in doing it but might not even be capable of taking it further. Everyday I wake up is a surprise and a blessing right now so I am working hard to do as much as I can as fast as I can.

My God, I am speechless and shocked what you wrote about you ...

God bless you !

Reaves · 11-01-07, 04:06 AM

Cheers Leo.

kriller2 · 11-01-07, 06:04 AM

This is screenshots taken with all the modders combined effort, new reflections on the water which matches the new sky and the new sun sets / sun rises:

Front "Row" seat to the new sunsets Jaketoox and Leovampire has been working so hard for! to bad I can't see the halo of the sun with my radeon x1950pro.

AVGWarhawk · 11-01-07, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Front "Row" seat to the new sunsets Jaketoox and Leovampire has been working so hard for! to bad I can't see the halo of the sun with my radeon x1950pro.

Same here Kriller. I have the test file, love the colors and effect. Halo is gone. The two old test halo files I do have; the halo is there. I attempted to move the halo file into the new test file but it did not work. I removed the halo file in the new test file and activated the old halo test file in hopes this would work. No deal. Leo and I spent a better part of two hours attempting to sort it out. No luck thus far.

Defiance · 11-01-07, 09:03 AM

Seems a bit tactless me logging in a post and saying "Hiya" or "Hiya's" after reading your further up post dave/LeoV

You deserve like any modder time to relax and enjoy the fruits of your labour but now even more so

So you MUST take time for Yourself First and go enjoy your and the other modders work

Anything you add mod-wise is a bonus

Take Care

Ciao

<S>

Anthony

billko · 11-01-07, 09:14 AM

Dave:

You know I've always been a big fan of your mods. I also understand that sometimes you have to take a break from modding so you can actually enjoy the game! (Which is what I'm doing right at the moment.)

Actually, you have the right attitude, and *everyone* should adopt a similar one. We are *all* dying, and no one knows when they will go, so everyone should relax and enjoy themselves. I know modding brings one kind of enjoyment, but so does playing the game you are so lovingly attached to.

My hat's off to you for choosing to spend your time making the game (and hence our quality of life - not meant facetiously because it's true!) better for us here!

Best regards and wishing you lots of good stuff.

Bill

clayp · 11-01-07, 10:10 AM

This mod will probably be the last of my modding work for a couple of reasons. Number one I would like to go back to enjoying the game for a change more than working on it. Number 2 I am dieing and have no idea how long I have so eventualy someone will have to take up the work and continue on from where I and the others leave off. This is why I am working so hard to get it done and out where everyone is happy including myself. So my limitaions on accomidating everyone and extending into new work is reaching a point where I am not only not interested in doing it but might not even be capable of taking it further. Everyday I wake up is a surprise and a blessing right now so I am working hard to do as much as I can as fast as I can.

I REFUSE TO ACCEPT THIS!!!!!!!!

Wilcke · 11-01-07, 01:22 PM

Leo, and the rest of the ROW contributors,

Thanks!

Wilcke

linerkiller · 11-01-07, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leovampire[COLOR=cyan

This mod will probably be the last of my modding work for a couple of reasons. Number one I would like to go back to enjoying the game for a change more than working on it. Number 2 I am dieing and have no idea how long I have so eventualy someone will have to take up the work and continue on from where I and the others leave off. This is why I am working so hard to get it done and out where everyone is happy including myself. So my limitaions on accomidating everyone and extending into new work is reaching a point where I am not only not interested in doing it but might not even be capable of taking it further. Everyday I wake up is a surprise and a blessing right now so I am working hard to do as much as I can as fast as I can.[/COLOR]

i hope you are joking about the second partof this post

Boris · 11-01-07, 02:33 PM

You're really dieing?

In that case mate, I sincerely urge you to stop modding now and do something more worthwhile with your final days, spend time with family or something.

baxter · 11-01-07, 03:04 PM

Leo...thanks for your generosity with your time, effort and talent. I really appreciate what you've done to improve this game and thereby add to everyone's enjoyment.

stabiz · 11-01-07, 03:06 PM

Clayp, I am truly sorry to hear that.

leovampire · 11-01-07, 03:09 PM

Can't wait to try it in game.

It's funny until I actualy told all of you what I knew a few months ago it didn't really set in. I had told Redwine a while back but nothing changed then last night I told Kriller2 and Jaketoox but still nothing. The I opened up here and it hit me like a ton of brick's. I had a good cry last night before I went to bed and feel a lot better. I have been holding this inside since I got out of the hospital some months back.

I have no living family members on either side of my family. I have 2 dog's and 1 person in my personal life that matters to me.

But this is the first time since my Army day's I actualy truly feel like I am a part of somthing and to me this is like a second home and you are all my extended family.

I wanted to do this mod because I did know what was comming and this is my legacy something to leave behind other than a grave stone to show I was here and existed and my life ment somthing.

I have no kid's to show I was here so this is my way to leave somthing of me behind other than a cold piece of stone in the ground. So now you under stand why I am working so hard to make this dream come true and get it done.

Thanks for the kind word's and post's but I didn't tell you for the Pitty or anything else like that. I told all of you because I feel you are a part of my family and deserve to know why, when it happens, you will not see me around some day. I guess just fair warning is the best way I can put it.

As my profile say's I have had 11 heart attacks now and 2 stroke's. My total heart out put is down to 40% and my pace maker, the 3rd one now because it has to work so hard, is shocking my heart back into rythum at least 1 to 3 time's a week.

The heart muscle that still work's has such a strain on it that it is being damaged further and weakening steadily. I knew once the doctor's said it was time to get every thing in order soon that there was nothing else to do but keep myself busy and my mind off of it.

This is why I work like I do and here all of the time. This keep's my mind occupied and off of all of this. Every time I shut off the PC and stop working I end up thinking about it.

Oh well enough now you know and under stand it all.

I will try my best to get every thing done soon and in your hand's.

Dave

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11-01-07, 01:59 AM	#1097
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,994 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	I don't know how anyone could ask anything more of you Leovampire. You've given us an awesome bit of work. Thank you. I'm sure all here feel that same gratitude. By all means enjoy it. Life is too short... and this is too easy to forget. __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

11-01-07, 04:06 AM	#1099
Reaves The Old Man Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,509 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Cheers Leo. __________________

11-01-07, 06:04 AM	#1100
kriller2 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,227 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	More screenshots of work in progress of ROW beta This is screenshots taken with all the modders combined effort, new reflections on the water which matches the new sky and the new sun sets / sun rises: Front "Row" seat to the new sunsets Jaketoox and Leovampire has been working so hard for! to bad I can't see the halo of the sun with my radeon x1950pro. __________________ *Kriller2.* [MODs] Real Environment mod and Pacific Enviroments 4 mod Last edited by kriller2; 11-01-07 at 07:17 AM.

11-01-07, 09:14 AM	#1103
billko 中国水兵 Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 275 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 2	Dave: You know I've always been a big fan of your mods. I also understand that sometimes you have to take a break from modding so you can actually enjoy the game! (Which is what I'm doing right at the moment.) Actually, you have the right attitude, and everyone should adopt a similar one. We are all dying, and no one knows when they will go, so everyone should relax and enjoy themselves. I know modding brings one kind of enjoyment, but so does playing the game you are so lovingly attached to. My hat's off to you for choosing to spend your time making the game (and hence our quality of life - not meant facetiously because it's true!) better for us here! Best regards and wishing you lots of good stuff. Bill __________________ Damage Control 1.1 - LeoVampire Edition - Can you trust the experience of your crew to inform you of how deep you can really dive?

11-01-07, 09:03 AM	#1102
Defiance Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: UK Posts: 908 Downloads: 673 Uploads: 0	Seems a bit tactless me logging in a post and saying "Hiya" or "Hiya's" after reading your further up post dave/LeoV You deserve like any modder time to relax and enjoy the fruits of your labour but now even more so So you MUST take time for Yourself First and go enjoy your and the other modders work Anything you add mod-wise is a bonus Take Care Ciao <S> Anthony

11-01-07, 10:10 AM	#1104
clayp The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,554 Downloads: 340 Uploads: 0	This mod will probably be the last of my modding work for a couple of reasons. Number one I would like to go back to enjoying the game for a change more than working on it. Number 2 I am dieing and have no idea how long I have so eventualy someone will have to take up the work and continue on from where I and the others leave off. This is why I am working so hard to get it done and out where everyone is happy including myself. So my limitaions on accomidating everyone and extending into new work is reaching a point where I am not only not interested in doing it but might not even be capable of taking it further. Everyday I wake up is a surprise and a blessing right now so I am working hard to do as much as I can as fast as I can. I REFUSE TO ACCEPT THIS!!!!!!!! __________________ clayp

11-01-07, 01:22 PM	#1105
Wilcke The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,441 Downloads: 234 Uploads: 0	Leo, and the rest of the ROW contributors, Thanks! Wilcke

11-01-07, 02:33 PM	#1107
Boris Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 1,691 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	You're really dieing? In that case mate, I sincerely urge you to stop modding now and do something more worthwhile with your final days, spend time with family or something.

11-01-07, 03:04 PM	#1108
baxter 中国水兵 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New York Posts: 282 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Leo...thanks for your generosity with your time, effort and talent. I really appreciate what you've done to improve this game and thereby add to everyone's enjoyment.

11-01-07, 03:06 PM	#1109
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Clayp, I am truly sorry to hear that. __________________

11-01-07, 03:09 PM	#1110
leovampire Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Waterbury, CT. USA Posts: 2,336 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Kriller2 the new reflection work looks awsome thanks Can't wait to try it in game. It's funny until I actualy told all of you what I knew a few months ago it didn't really set in. I had told Redwine a while back but nothing changed then last night I told Kriller2 and Jaketoox but still nothing. The I opened up here and it hit me like a ton of brick's. I had a good cry last night before I went to bed and feel a lot better. I have been holding this inside since I got out of the hospital some months back. I have no living family members on either side of my family. I have 2 dog's and 1 person in my personal life that matters to me. But this is the first time since my Army day's I actualy truly feel like I am a part of somthing and to me this is like a second home and you are all my extended family. I wanted to do this mod because I did know what was comming and this is my legacy something to leave behind other than a grave stone to show I was here and existed and my life ment somthing. I have no kid's to show I was here so this is my way to leave somthing of me behind other than a cold piece of stone in the ground. So now you under stand why I am working so hard to make this dream come true and get it done. Thanks for the kind word's and post's but I didn't tell you for the Pitty or anything else like that. I told all of you because I feel you are a part of my family and deserve to know why, when it happens, you will not see me around some day. I guess just fair warning is the best way I can put it. As my profile say's I have had 11 heart attacks now and 2 stroke's. My total heart out put is down to 40% and my pace maker, the 3rd one now because it has to work so hard, is shocking my heart back into rythum at least 1 to 3 time's a week. The heart muscle that still work's has such a strain on it that it is being damaged further and weakening steadily. I knew once the doctor's said it was time to get every thing in order soon that there was nothing else to do but keep myself busy and my mind off of it. This is why I work like I do and here all of the time. This keep's my mind occupied and off of all of this. Every time I shut off the PC and stop working I end up thinking about it. Oh well enough now you know and under stand it all. I will try my best to get every thing done soon and in your hand's. Dave __________________ AIR_BASE_NAV_MAP_MOD Reflections_on_the_Water