Wuhan virus 2020

[Jimbuna]

[August]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Do not call it fake. My Cousin, my little sister and her husband and some friends were very sick in Covid19. I even got it myself..a light version, where only my smell disappeared in a little weeks time.

Markus

Fake pandemic, not fake disease. I've also had covid and while it kept me in bed for a few days it was nothing compared to some bouts of the flu i've had over the years. I've also had relatives die because of the flu yet nobody is shutting down society in response to it.

[Rockstar]

And therein lies the problem, it was FEAR. Fear was what motivated the politicization of a flu that, like others, spread around the globe. I said it before I’ll say it again. Those who made the personal choice to take an experimental vaccine I wish you all the best and a long and prosperous life.

But to you authoritarian, satanic nancy boy mandate nazis afraid of your own shadow. Who even went so far as to say the death of others from experimental vaccination was acceptable and that others should lose their jobs and health benefits and mocked others that died because they didn’t agree with you and your ‘facts’. I hope everyone of you asshats get what you really deserve.

Hopefully next time the issue will remain between you and your physician. Not politicians, party officials, headlines, and their pseudo science.

[Skybird]

Those at Corona who pretend to have known everything better from the beginning should perhaps have simply presented their EVIDENCE. They didn't. Because they had none. They couldn't have, because ignorance prevailed. So most ordinary people, under the influence of the dramatic and tragic reports from Italy, New York and many other places, did the most reasonable and obvious thing: they fell back to previous experiences with pandemics. This is basically reasonable.

In science, we don't follow assertions, we follow evidence. It is the same as in court. We follow the evidence. Wherever it leads in the end. The end in this case is bitter, because we had to learn that the original evidence finding was rigged. That there was lying, obfuscation, and deception. In the end, however, the principle of following the evidence has also led us back to the path of truth. Us, that means most normal everyday people. Governments, various associations and the pharmaceutical industry refuse and hinder the reappraisal until today. At least here in Germany. We are like the Chinese: the party is never wrong. It cannot err at all.

But now to make such silly comparisons and claims as you did just now, well, you don't do yourself any favors with that either. Your comparison is lame, Rockstar, that is just total nonsense, which shows that you have no idea how meltblow tissue is built and what it can do, and what not, and how viruses are transported in the air, namely sticking to dust and moist particles. Which is why even industrial particle masks from a certain fineness of pores on are basically infinitely more effective than a coarse-meshed cotton cloth.

Big Pharma is the field of organized crime, and has been for a long time. But how unabashedly far-reaching this corruptness is now willing to reach, I think many have underestimated, including me, including Campbell, and many others. I recall the March issue of the British Medical Journal last year, in which two Nobel laureates in medicine dryly summed up that the corruption in the scientific enterprise has now penetrated so far through the brutal enforcement of corporate interests that practicing medicine according to the principle of evidence-based therapy choice now seems practically impossible, since the objective analysis of such evidence is systematically obstructed and made impossible by the industry in order to protect its profit interests.
If some of you geniuses and smart alecks now think that you have to let the dwarf Allwiss hang out endlessly, then I ask myself why none of you know-it-alls was able to put such a compelling argumentation and argumentation on paper two or three years ago. You did not protest on the basis of better knowledge, but because it went against your grain that a government told you to do something and that you should not do anything else. Stubbornness was your guiding principle, not superior knowledge. You could have presented this knowledge, if you had had it. But you did not have it.

What you had instead, did not go beyond the level of conspiracy theories, which you could not prove, and which were and are partly just - until today - complete crap. So it remained with nagging and shouting.

And only when others had collected and presented the revealing evidence and facts, had litigated over the release of files, had much experience from the clinics and research projects you reviled substantiated doubts that the vaccines were as harmless as claimed, and much time had passed with all this - only there you jumped on the train, which others built and set in motion, and made their proofs your own and act since then in such a way, as if these arguments and indications and proofs had always been represented by you. But you yourselves didn't know ****! The government had offended your vanity, and therefore you stood on the barricades - superior knowledge and deeper insights had nothing to do with it.

Beautiful heroes you are!

John Campbell, with his attitude of trying to set an example in integrity and respectability, cuts a much better figure - even if he has been deceived and lied to just like many others, and just like me, I feel deceived and lied to and deceived.

And just this, I lost three longtime internet friends in the first months of the pandemic, men of my age whom I knew since 15-20 years, talked to often, discussed with, fought with over aeguments, played correspondence chess with. One of them I called a close friend, although we never met in person. I grieved with him when nhsi briother had an accident, I was with him during his divorce and gave him and his then-wife advice. These three died of the desease - not of the vaccine, which did not exist at that time.

[tonschk]

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[tonschk]

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[tonschk]

“The Vaccine was Not brought in for COVID. COVID was Brought in for the Vaccine. Once you realize that, everything else makes sense.” ~ Dr. Reiner Fuellmich

I'm still stunned at the Large number of People who Ingenuously, Naively and Voluntarily went to vaccination Hub to get these jabs. The ones who were coerced or forced to for work I have sympathy for. Those who called the rest of us tinfoil hat wearers, plague rats, granny killers, etc, etc because refusing the jab I have no sympathy for.

[Rockstar]

Thank you Dr. Fauci.

Lab Leak Most Likely Origin of Covid-19 Pandemic, Energy Department Now Says
U.S. agency’s revised assessment is based on new intelligence

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-o...-leak-807b7b0a

WASHINGTON—The U.S. Energy Department has concluded that the Covid pandemic most likely arose from a laboratory leak, according to a classified intelligence report recently provided to the White House and key members of Congress.

The shift by the Energy Department, which previously was undecided on how the virus emerged, is noted in an update to a 2021 document by Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines’s office.

The new report highlights how different parts of the intelligence community have arrived at disparate judgments about the pandemic’s origin. The Energy Department now joins the Federal Bureau of Investigation in saying the virus likely spread via a mishap at a Chinese laboratory. Four other agencies, along with a national intelligence panel, still judge that it was likely the result of a natural transmission, and two are undecided.

The Energy Department’s conclusion is the result of new intelligence and is significant because the agency has considerable scientific expertise and oversees a network of U.S. national laboratories, some of which conduct advanced biological research.

The Energy Department made its judgment with “low confidence,” according to people who have read the classified report.

The FBI previously came to the conclusion that the pandemic was likely the result of a lab leak in 2021 with “moderate confidence” and still holds to this view.

The FBI employs a cadre of microbiologists, immunologists and other scientists and is supported by the National Bioforensic Analysis Center, which was established at Fort Detrick, Md., in 2004 to analyze anthrax and other possible biological threats.

U.S. officials declined to give details on the fresh intelligence and analysis that led the Energy Department to change its position. They added that while the Energy Department and the FBI each say an unintended lab leak is most likely, they arrived at those conclusions for different reasons.

The updated document underscores how intelligence officials are still putting together the pieces on how Covid-19 emerged. More than one million Americans have died in the pandemic that began more than three years ago.

The National Intelligence Council, which conducts long-term strategic analysis, and four agencies, which officials declined to identify, still assess with “low confidence” that the virus came about through natural transmission from an infected animal, according to the updated report.

The Central Intelligence Agency and another agency that officials wouldn’t name remain undecided between the lab-leak and natural-transmission theories, the people who have read the classified report said.

Despite the agencies’ differing analyses, the update reaffirmed an existing consensus between them that Covid-19 wasn’t the result of a Chinese biological-weapons program, the people who have read the classified report said.

A senior U.S. intelligence official confirmed that the intelligence community had conducted the update, whose existence hasn’t previously been reported. This official added that it was done in light of new intelligence, further study of academic literature and consultation with experts outside government.

The update, which is less than five pages, wasn’t requested by Congress. But lawmakers, particularly House and Senate Republicans, are pursuing their own investigations into the origins of the pandemic and are pressing the Biden administration and the intelligence community for more information.

Officials didn’t say if an unclassified version of the update would be issued.

U.S. national-security adviser Jake Sullivan declined to confirm or deny the Journal’s reporting in an appearance Sunday on CNN. He said President Biden had repeatedly directed every part of the intelligence community to invest in trying to discern as much as possible about the origins of the pandemic.

“President Biden specifically requested that the national labs, which are part of the Energy Department, be brought into this assessment because he wants to put every tool at use to be able to figure out what happened here,” Mr. Sullivan said.

There are a “variety of views in the intelligence community,” Mr. Sullivan added. “A number of them have said they just don’t have enough information.”

Asked about the Energy Department’s assessment, Sen. Dan Sullivan (R-Ala.) said Sunday on NBC that Congress needed to hold extensive hearings concerning the origins of the pandemic, adding that China has sought to intimidate other countries from questioning whether the virus emerged naturally. “This is a country that has no problem coming out and lying to the world,” he said.

The Covid-19 virus first circulated in Wuhan, China, no later than November 2019, according to the U.S. 2021 intelligence report. The pandemic’s origin has been the subject of vigorous, sometimes partisan debate among academics, intelligence experts and lawmakers.

David Relman, a Stanford University microbiologist who has argued for a dispassionate investigation into the pandemic’s beginnings, welcomed word of the updated findings.

“Kudos to those who are willing to set aside their preconceptions and objectively re-examine what we know and don’t know about Covid origins,” said Dr. Relman, who has served on several federal scientific-advisory boards. “My plea is that we not accept an incomplete answer or give up because of political expediency.”

An Energy Department spokesman declined to discuss details of its assessment but wrote in a statement that the agency “continues to support the thorough, careful, and objective work of our intelligence professionals in investigating the origins of COVID-19, as the President directed.”

The FBI declined to comment.

China, which has placed limits on investigations by the World Health Organization, has disputed that the virus could have leaked from one of its labs and has suggested it emerged outside China.

The Chinese government didn’t respond to requests for comment about whether there has been any change in its views on the origins of Covid-19.

Some scientists argue that the virus probably emerged naturally and leapt from an animal to a human, the same pathway for outbreaks of previously unknown pathogens.

Intelligence analysts who have supported that view give weight to “the precedent of past novel infectious disease outbreaks having zoonotic origins,” the flourishing trade in a diverse set of animals that are susceptible to such infections, and their conclusion that Chinese officials didn’t have foreknowledge of the virus, the 2021 report said.

Yet no confirmed animal source for Covid-19 has been identified. The lack of an animal source, and the fact that Wuhan is the center of China’s extensive coronavirus research, has led some scientists and U.S. officials to argue that a lab leak is the best explanation for the pandemic’s beginning.

U.S. State Department cables written in 2018 and internal Chinese documents show that there were persistent concerns about China’s biosafety procedures, which have been cited by proponents of the lab-leak hypothesis.

Wuhan is home to an array of laboratories, many of which were built or expanded as a result of China’s traumatic experience with the initial severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS, epidemic beginning in 2002. They include campuses of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, and the Wuhan Institute of Biological Products, which produces vaccines.

An outbreak at a seafood market in Wuhan had initially been thought to be the source of the virus, but some scientists and Chinese public-health officials now see it as an example of community spread rather than the place where the first human infection occurred, the 2021 intelligence community report said.

In May 2021, President Biden told the intelligence community to step up its efforts to investigate the origins of Covid-19 and directed that the review draw on work by the U.S.’s national laboratories and other agencies. Congress, he said, would be kept informed of that effort.

The October 2021 report said that there was a consensus that Covid-19 wasn’t the result of a Chinese biological-weapons program. But it didn’t settle the debate over whether it resulted from a lab leak or came from an animal, saying that more information was needed from the Chinese authorities.

The U.S. intelligence community is made up of 18 agencies, including offices at the Energy, State and Treasury departments. Eight of them participated in the Covid-origins review, along with the National Intelligence Council.

Before that report, the Energy Department’s Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory prepared a study in May 2020 concluding that a lab-leak hypothesis was plausible and deserved further investigation.

The debate over whether Covid-19 might have escaped from a laboratory has been fueled by U.S. intelligence that three researchers from the Wuhan Institute of Virology became sick enough in November 2019 that they sought hospital care.

A House Intelligence Committee report concluded last year that this disclosure didn’t strengthen either the lab-leak or the natural-origin theory as the researchers might have become sick with a seasonal flu. But some former U.S. officials say the sick researchers were involved in coronavirus research.

Lawmakers have sought to find out more about why the FBI assesses a lab leak was likely. In an Aug. 1 letter to FBI Director Christopher Wray, Sen. Roger Marshall, a Kansas Republican, requested that the FBI share the records of its investigation and asked if the bureau had briefed Mr. Biden on its findings.

In a Nov. 18 letter, FBI Assistant Director Jill Tyson said the agency couldn’t share those details because of Justice Department policy on preserving “the integrity of ongoing investigations.” She referred the senator to Ms. Haines’s office for information on what briefings were arranged for the president.

Write to Michael R. Gordon at michael.gordon@wsj.com and Warren P. Strobel at Warren.Strobel@wsj.com

[tonschk]

This is for people who partake with experimental Jabs

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[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by tonschk

“The Vaccine was Not brought in for COVID. COVID was Brought in for the Vaccine. Once you realize that, everything else makes sense.” ~ Dr. Reiner Fuellmich

I'm still stunned at the Large number of People who Ingenuously, Naively and Voluntarily went to vaccination Hub to get these jabs. The ones who were coerced or forced to for work I have sympathy for. Those who called the rest of us tinfoil hat wearers, plague rats, granny killers, etc, etc because refusing the jab I have no sympathy for.

Probably reciprocated by those being of the opposite viewpoint.

[Skybird]

Reiner Fuellmich is a German lawyer and corona vaccine opponent who turned out to be a fraud.

He belonged to the scene and promised a "trillion Euros lawsuit" against the coercive measures of the government and against some of the high-profile corona scientists in this country, namely the virologist Christian Drosten and the head of the RKI, Lothar Wieler. He asked his followers to pay almost one thosuand Euros in order to be allowed to join a class action suit, which should bring them later then "a rich money blessing", which he wanted to enforce at court for them by his legal fight.

In the meantime, he himself has been charged with fraud and has even been banished by the activists in the anti-vaccine and corona denial scene and was excluded and chased away in disgrace.

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