US Politics Thread 2016-2020 - Page 71

Takeda Shingen · 02-01-17, 10:25 PM

Onkel Neal · 02-01-17, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

My mistake. I sometimes forget just how deep inside the Trump bubble SubSim is. I'll try to limit my references to Fox News, Rasmussen Polls, Breitbart and occasionally InfoWars in the future.

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You need to stop that.

Takeda Shingen · 02-01-17, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

You need to stop that.

Stop what? Acknowledgement that the climate on this forum is overtly hostile to those outside of a very particular political mindset? You're the owner, I don't need to remind you that you can cast me permanently into the internet void with a simple click. I won't be trying to get back in. You know that. But what I posted is the truth, and I stand by it.

Onkel Neal · 02-01-17, 10:44 PM

Excuse me, there is no hostility towards members regardless of their political affiliation as long as it is inside the rules. It's very sad that you try to claim otherwise. What you posted is your own viewpoint, nothing more.

Takeda Shingen · 02-01-17, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Excuse me, there is no hostility towards members regardless of their political affiliation as long as it is inside the rules. It's very sad that you try to claim otherwise. What you posted is your own viewpoint, nothing more.

The tone of the thread here seems to indicate otherwise.

Onkel Neal · 02-01-17, 10:48 PM

The tone of this thread has been anti-Trump, pro-Trump and amused indifference as far as I can tell.

Takeda Shingen · 02-01-17, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

The tone of this thread has been anti-Trump, pro-Trump and amused indifference as far as I can tell.

By my estimation it seems to be a 71-page rant about "globalists" and "snowflakes" capped by incredulously-faced gif memes. I suppose beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Buddahaid · 02-01-17, 11:00 PM

Everyone gets a stump subject to the rules. I see no bias, just who's come to dinner.

Takeda Shingen · 02-01-17, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Everyone gets a stump subject to the rules. I see no bias, just who's come to dinner.

Well, I still don't agree with you but there isn't really anything productive that can come from me being here. I'll ask Mr. Stevens to delete this account permanently. I won't have the ability to give into temptation and you all won't have to read my remarks.

02-01-17, 11:31 PM

Tak,
the reason why Subsim seems biased towards trump is simple: Most political sane people left over the years or simply learned that trying to roll rocks uphill is rather futile and stay silent.
I just get dragged back in again and again as well, only to see how futile it is trying to have a debate with people who don't want a debate, let alone find out the truth in the process of a debate, but just want to be right.

As I said, futile. But no need to leave for good, really. Dowly would be very sad I think.

Takeda Shingen · 02-01-17, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

Tak,
the reason why Subsim seems biased towards trump is simple: Most political sane people left over the years or simply learned that trying to roll rocks uphill is rather futile and stay silent.
I just get dragged back in again and again as well, only to see how futile it is trying to have a debate with people who don't want a debate, let alone find out the truth in the process of a debate, but just want to be right.

As I said, futile. But no need to leave for good, really. Dowly would be very sad I think.

Dowly is a cool guy. So are you. I am totally with you on the getting drug back in. I didn't read this forum for two years. It wasn't even on my radar. I moderate another forum, my interest is in that community, etc. But with all the crazy stuff that has happened politically I keep coming back here to fight old fights with old enemies. The sad thing is that I don't even care about them or why I fought with them. It is all compulsion.

I don't want that. We all know the cycle of post-refresh-refresh-refresh-read-post. We all know how it chews up your whole day. We all know how you become embittered and yet enthralled by it. I haven't felt that since I left SubSim. I feel it today and I don't like it. I don't like how it makes me feel and I don't like how I act when I feel that way. So I want the cycle to end.

To that end I asked Neal to delete the account. I asked him here too, so that there is no rumor that "Neal banned Tak". He didn't. I asked him to do this.

I'm still on Steam. Vita, Mortis, Careo is the user handle. Thrillho on BattleNet. I'll friend you back.

02-02-17, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I don't want that. We all know the cycle of post-refresh-refresh-refresh-read-post. We all know how it chews up your whole day. We all know how you become embittered and yet enthralled by it. I haven't felt that since I left SubSim. I feel it today and I don't like it. I don't like how it makes me feel and I don't like how I act when I feel that way. So I want the cycle to end.

Damn, that sounds familiar...
I got brigged a while ago because I was a little... Too honest... Towards a beloved and cherished long time member and actually wanted to stay out if it all for good as well. Very calm times. I came back for the dangerous waters section, got nosy for gt, bit my own tongue for a while... Then felt someone had to counter the ignorance and stupidity... Now I find myself in what you've just described and can only say you're doing the right thing, it makes sense.

Also, let's create a support group!

Méo · 02-02-17, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

the reason why Subsim seems biased towards trump is simple: Most political sane people left over the years or simply learned that trying to roll rocks uphill is rather futile and stay silent.
I just get dragged back in again and again as well, only to see how futile it is trying to have a debate with people who don't want a debate, let alone find out the truth in the process of a debate, but just want to be right.

Catfish · 02-02-17, 03:03 AM

The tone is hostile, but what happens here does absolutely not compare to other forums, where "snowflake" is even the most friendly term used there, with direct threats to shoot "libtards" at the other side of the spectrum. Someone here also tried to start a witchhunt, but it was the only time afaik.

Imho this is a direct result of Trump; those who stayed under the radar during Obama's socialist dictatorship, are now having a blast. And why should they hold back and act diplomatically, if the new boss does not.

I sometimes log in to other forums just to see what people write there – just to remind me that civilized behaviour and "normal" conduct is not a given anymore, nor is my opinion special or self-evident at all.

Trump sure polarizes, but you have to see that the US population is almost evenly split. And some are obviously pleased about what he does. That a majority defends him, should not be a surprise in an - after all - military forum.

I miss Betonov's posts. There are a lot who left in anger.

Dowly · 02-02-17, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Speaking of which, I'm just going to leave The Donald's African American History Month Address here.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/politi...history-month/

TL;DR: "Enough about you, let's talk about me."

02-01-17, 10:44 PM	#1054
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,294 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	Excuse me, there is no hostility towards members regardless of their political affiliation as long as it is inside the rules. It's very sad that you try to claim otherwise. What you posted is your own viewpoint, nothing more. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

02-01-17, 10:48 PM	#1056
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,294 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	The tone of this thread has been anti-Trump, pro-Trump and amused indifference as far as I can tell. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

02-01-17, 11:00 PM	#1058
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,572 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	Everyone gets a stump subject to the rules. I see no bias, just who's come to dinner. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

02-02-17, 03:03 AM	#1064
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,904 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	The tone is hostile, but what happens here does absolutely not compare to other forums, where "snowflake" is even the most friendly term used there, with direct threats to shoot "libtards" at the other side of the spectrum. Someone here also tried to start a witchhunt, but it was the only time afaik. Imho this is a direct result of Trump; those who stayed under the radar during Obama's socialist dictatorship, are now having a blast. And why should they hold back and act diplomatically, if the new boss does not. I sometimes log in to other forums just to see what people write there – just to remind me that civilized behaviour and "normal" conduct is not a given anymore, nor is my opinion special or self-evident at all. Trump sure polarizes, but you have to see that the US population is almost evenly split. And some are obviously pleased about what he does. That a majority defends him, should not be a surprise in an - after all - military forum. I miss Betonov's posts. There are a lot who left in anger. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

02-01-17, 10:25 PM	#1051
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0

02-01-17, 11:31 PM	#1060
Nippelspanner Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Tak, the reason why Subsim seems biased towards trump is simple: Most political sane people left over the years or simply learned that trying to roll rocks uphill is rather futile and stay silent. I just get dragged back in again and again as well, only to see how futile it is trying to have a debate with people who don't want a debate, let alone find out the truth in the process of a debate, but just want to be right. As I said, futile. But no need to leave for good, really. Dowly would be very sad I think.