Chess Match: Shady Bill vs. Skybird - Page 7

Shady Bill · 10-12-22, 11:57 AM

12.Qd1xd4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

if your move is 12. Be3xd4 then my move 12. ... / Ne7xd5
if your move is 12. Ne2xd4 then my move 12. ... / Ne7xd5

You seem very eager about Nd7xe5

You are on a bit of a roll I will admit...

but I will make you fight for it Skybird...there will be blood

<---- pointy like a pin

Shady Bill · 10-12-22, 12:08 PM

I used to be obsessed with double fianchetto. It creates really interesting and sharp game play. Your Bg7 has been a thorn in my side since you made the move.

Shady Bill · 10-12-22, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

your move 11. Bd3xc4 my move 11. ... / c5xd4

if your move is 12. Be3xd4 then my move 12. ... / Ne7xd5
if your move is 12. Ne2xd4 then my move 12. ... / Ne7xd5

Btw I want to point out I assume you mean Nd7xe5

Skybird · 10-12-22, 01:32 PM

Oh fohk!

Yes, of course Nd7xe5. My fault.

My apologies for this. I correct the move-post.

Could you believe it? I just overlooked Qd4: . It never appeared on my radar screen. Lucky me it has no hurting consequences...

Skybird · 10-12-22, 01:47 PM

Luxurious life now. I have Le5:, Qc7 and Qa5+ as options, the first two opens cans not of worms but further threats, where as the last one feels too tame a bit at first glance. The other two I need to calculate deeper.

After 12. Qd4:

Skybird · 10-12-22, 03:31 PM

your move 12. Qd1xd4 my move 12. ... / Qd8-c7

That pawn won't run away, lets make it a bit more complicated first before murdering him.

I even considered 12.../Nd6, but after 13.f4/Nc4: 14.Qc4: I did not see my action leading anywhere near the white king that would justify to let that pawn escape.

Thats it for tonight.

Shady Bill · 10-12-22, 09:01 PM

13.f3-f4

the move I should have made a bit ago. I am starting to worry about my rook on a1. Once e5 is gone, that could get ugly quick...

Time for bed, see you tomorrow.

Skybird · 10-13-22, 04:27 AM

"Feuer frei."

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shady Bill

13.f3-f4

the move I should have made a bit ago. I am starting to worry about my rook on a1. Once e5 is gone, that could get ugly quick...

Yes, but now its too late. I fear 12. Qd4: was weak, too, I can only assume you tried to avoid again doing the obvious move to irritate me. But it allowed me to play not the apparently oh so obvious move Ne5: immediately, but to play Qc7, and I am tempted to add two exclamation marks to that - because as I see it that move shatters your backbone. It now pays off that I stuck to the core principles of the Pirc, despite your effort to distract me.

. The bishop is one of these key elements. And it will be the bringer of doom soon!

your move 13. f3-f4 my move 13. ... / Nd7xe5

if your move 14. f4xe5 then my move 14. Bg7xe5

Shady Bill · 10-13-22, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

Yes, but now its too late. It now pays off that I stuck to the core principles of the Pirc, despite your effort to distract me.

. The bishop is one of these key elements. And it will be the bringer of doom soon!

Doom??

doom is never good....

after I did c4, the whole thing came unglued.

If I would have played one of the 2 moves you proposed, capturing at d4 with my knight or bishop, instead of the queen, many bad things would still happen. Though looked at the proposed moves and I think capturing with my knight might have been better. I opted for my queen to have added mobility and also to get it out of the way.

I had strange feverish dreams last night where I still castled queenside, and did a last all out attack on your kingside...I saw rooks, pawns..it was all very grand. In the end coach Niemann whispered in my ear "you did it, buddy" and raised me on his shoulders....but then I woke up

Let me look at this for a little with morning coffee.

mapuc · 10-13-22, 07:19 AM

I came up with a strategy. By watching you play and the very little knowledge I have on Fisher.

Play totally random with a certain pattern in my moves. Play so to say guerilla chess warfare.

Markus

Shady Bill · 10-13-22, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

your move 13. f3-f4 my move 13. ... / Nd7xe5 if your move 14. f4xe5 then my move 14. Bg7xe5

After your proposed move order:

15. Qc5

I am starting to feel like Louis Auguste a bit over here...

Shady Bill · 10-13-22, 07:38 AM

I assumed the sport of "chess boxing" was just a couple drunk guys in their backyard messing around...

no, this is a multi-million dollar sport with grandmaster rated commentators.

Skybird · 10-13-22, 07:43 AM

No, Qxd4 was not good, the alternatives were not good, but "less bad", the lesser evils.

Since some people watch in here: this is hypothetical after 11..../cd4:

Now two options:

First, this: 12. Nd4:/Ne5: 13. Be2/Nd6 14. Na3 (must go to a3, c3 does not work because c4 must be guarded against my nights going for c4 and again putting your dark bishop under pressure, I want that one to be gone with my dark bishop surviving). The result is this:

Not good a position, but much better than what there is now.
Edited: better posiiton than I initially assumed. White has one pawn less, yes, but he has the pair of bishops, can castle short, and organise a defence - maybe even a counterattack later on. MUCH better than Qd4: and the doom that follows that move.

or:

Second, this: 12. Bd4:/Ne5: 13. Bb3/Bf5 14. Le5:/Qd1:+ 15. Bd1:/Be5: 16: Nbc3

Again, preferrable to what there is now. Black has the pair of bishops, open firing lines of both, the short-legged nights may find it difficult to defend the two pawn-fronts on the left and right side later one.

These variations are no magic to find, since much is pretty much enforced.

Skybird · 10-13-22, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shady Bill

After your proposed move order:
15. Qc5

14. f4xe5 / Bg7xe5

your move 15. Qd4-c5 my move 15. ... / Be5xb2

"Captain, radar is clear of any surprises."

"Helm, we proceed on our plotted course."

Bishop of doom...

Shady Bill · 10-13-22, 08:14 AM

16. Qc5xc7

10-12-22, 01:32 PM	#94
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,630 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Oh fohk! Yes, of course Nd7xe5. My fault. My apologies for this. I correct the move-post. Could you believe it? I just overlooked Qd4: . It never appeared on my radar screen. Lucky me it has no hurting consequences... __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 10-12-22 at 01:51 PM.

10-12-22, 01:47 PM	#95
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,630 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Luxurious life now. I have Le5:, Qc7 and Qa5+ as options, the first two opens cans not of worms but further threats, where as the last one feels too tame a bit at first glance. The other two I need to calculate deeper. After 12. Qd4: __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 10-12-22 at 01:57 PM.

10-12-22, 03:31 PM	#96
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,630 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	your move 12. Qd1xd4 my move 12. ... / Qd8-c7 That pawn won't run away, lets make it a bit more complicated first before murdering him. I even considered 12.../Nd6, but after 13.f4/Nc4: 14.Qc4: I did not see my action leading anywhere near the white king that would justify to let that pawn escape. Thats it for tonight. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

10-12-22, 09:01 PM	#97
Shady Bill Silent but not deadly Join Date: Oct 2022 Location: Somewhere north of AN34 Posts: 171 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	13.f3-f4 13.f3-f4 the move I should have made a bit ago. I am starting to worry about my rook on a1. Once e5 is gone, that could get ugly quick... Time for bed, see you tomorrow.

10-13-22, 07:19 AM	#100
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,537 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I came up with a strategy. By watching you play and the very little knowledge I have on Fisher. Play totally random with a certain pattern in my moves. Play so to say guerilla chess warfare. Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

10-12-22, 12:08 PM	#92
Shady Bill Silent but not deadly Join Date: Oct 2022 Location: Somewhere north of AN34 Posts: 171 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	I used to be obsessed with double fianchetto. It creates really interesting and sharp game play. Your Bg7 has been a thorn in my side since you made the move.

10-13-22, 07:38 AM	#102
Shady Bill Silent but not deadly Join Date: Oct 2022 Location: Somewhere north of AN34 Posts: 171 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	so this is a real thing... I assumed the sport of "chess boxing" was just a couple drunk guys in their backyard messing around... no, this is a multi-million dollar sport with grandmaster rated commentators.

10-13-22, 07:43 AM	#103
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,630 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	No, Qxd4 was not good, the alternatives were not good, but "less bad", the lesser evils. Since some people watch in here: this is hypothetical after 11..../cd4: Now two options: First, this: 12. Nd4:/Ne5: 13. Be2/Nd6 14. Na3 (must go to a3, c3 does not work because c4 must be guarded against my nights going for c4 and again putting your dark bishop under pressure, I want that one to be gone with my dark bishop surviving). The result is this: Not good a position, but much better than what there is now. Edited: better posiiton than I initially assumed. White has one pawn less, yes, but he has the pair of bishops, can castle short, and organise a defence - maybe even a counterattack later on. MUCH better than Qd4: and the doom that follows that move. or: Second, this: 12. Bd4:/Ne5: 13. Bb3/Bf5 14. Le5:/Qd1:+ 15. Bd1:/Be5: 16: Nbc3 Again, preferrable to what there is now. Black has the pair of bishops, open firing lines of both, the short-legged nights may find it difficult to defend the two pawn-fronts on the left and right side later one. These variations are no magic to find, since much is pretty much enforced. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 10-13-22 at 08:08 AM.

10-13-22, 08:14 AM	#105
Shady Bill Silent but not deadly Join Date: Oct 2022 Location: Somewhere north of AN34 Posts: 171 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	16.Qc5xc7 16. Qc5xc7