Jim Jefferies - Gun Control

[TarJak]

I smiled but didn't LOL.

[Sailor Steve]

I read it out loud trying to mimic all the voices. I didn't find it funny, but that may be because I didn't like the delivery.

[TarJak]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I read it out loud trying to mimic all the voices. I didn't find it funny, but that may be because I didn't like the delivery.

Originally Posted by DJ Kelley

I feel they serve there purpose. I know that throughout History there have been times when the Government has taken guns away from it's citizens and then gone on a tirade completely stepping on human rights.

Nazi Germany is a prime example. The Soviet Union is another.

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SERIOUSLY?


It is tough as nails to get a gun now in Germany and oh wonder...NO NAZI REGIME!

The whole "government takes guns to suppress" argument is so full of crap I always want to make something KAPUTT so angry it makes me.

Jesus Christ, wake up from your propaganda dream world will ya?
What are you? August Nr.2 who's constantly blubbering about "chains of oppression" when a country has strict gun laws?

This is ridiculous beyond measurement.
But from someone who "allows his wife to..." I sure won't expect common sense or that he thinks about all the nice catchphrases others throw at him.

[TarJak]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

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SERIOUSLY?


It is tough as nails to get a gun now in Germany and oh wonder...NO NAZI REGIME!

The whole "government takes guns to suppress" argument is so full of crap I always want to make something KAPUTT so angry it makes me.

Jesus Christ, wake up from your propaganda dream world will ya?
What are you? August Nr.2 who's constantly blubbering about "chains of oppression" when a country has strict gun laws?

This is ridiculous beyond measurement.
But from someone who "allows his wife to..." I sure won't expect common sense or that he thinks about all the nice catchphrases others throw at him.

But hey, he likes guns.

Originally Posted by TarJak

But hey, he likes guns.

But hey, I like guns, I enjoy shooting.
Why don't I come up with arguments on the same level as some people who like guns?
Oh yeah, according to that piece of rubbish he linked to I live in one of only two countries in the world that have banned guns completely, so maybe that's it

[Betonov]

Great, you angered a German.

See you in 4 weeks, I need to go weld some antitank traps and barricades along the northern border

[TarJak]

Originally Posted by Betonov

Great, you angered a German.

See you in 4 weeks, I need to go weld some antitank traps and barricades along the northern border

Now that's comedy!

Okay I will do my best to sum up this argument. I made a huge mistake by arguing with a bunch of liberals and one admitted socialist who thinks there is a difference between socialism and liberalism. And then accused me of not being smart.

It all boils down to control. If you give up your right to own a gun, and someone breaks into your home, the control is in the hands of the criminal and the local government. Depending on where you live, you can call the cops and hopefully they will respond quickly and foil the criminal in the process of the crime. If you live somewhere like Detroit, your up a creek without a paddle. Detroit Police are extremely under manned, and crime is vary high.

Estimates place response time to an hour or more for Detroit Police. Not that they don't care, they just generally have there hands full with other things. That is plenty of time for the next Jeffrey Dahmer to do whatever they originally had planned and then some.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...42250518125898

I know, it is just a NRA sponsored site and they are all lying. Just save it Please.

Even if you live somewhere that has a quick police force, there is still no guarantee that you or your family will be rescued. It all depends on what is going on, how fast the police can get there, and then hope to GOD, oh scratch that, evolution I know. Hope to mother nature that you and your family have not been taken hostage.

Now if you have a gun, does that mean you are guaranteed to stop the crime? No! It all depends on what happens. If you are caught naked like the comedian, then you are still up a creek with no paddle, and no clothes. Gun or no Gun, your just screwed. However, there is a chance that you will hear the break in, and have time to get your weapon ready. And hopefully you have clothes on.

If the criminal is a super secret ninja assassin, then yea your just dead. However, most criminals are real humans who will make noise because they are nervous about being caught, new to the idea of crime and breaking in to a home, clumsy fools, and so on. Bottom line you can hear the noise and respond appropriately.

Now on to the idea of suicide and accidental death by firearm. I am not going to post any links for this, because this is from personal experience. Not only do I have a degree in Psychology, but I also at one point in my life attempted to commit suicide. It was many years ago, and I reached a point of depression that was so deep I just decided enough is enough. The point of that statement is, that I did not shoot myself. Even though there was a loaded shotgun within arms reach. Why did I not use the shotgun like the singer of Nervona? I mean it is guaranteed to work, unlike a pistol. Simple! Because I didn't want to.

So the point that I am getting at, is if a person reaches a point where they are going to commit suicide, gun or no gun they are going to do it. There are multiple levels of a person reaching a point of suicide and by the time they reach the last step, there just going to do it however they can. So if we want to stop suicide, then we need to outlaw guns, knives, razor blades, all other sharp objects, ropes, extension cords, any cord that is longer than 2 feet, chairs & stools, sleeping pills, aspirin, pain killers, all house hold cleaning agents, and my personal favorite, we must maintain a constant watch on everyone to make sure they drink enough water.

Now on to accidental death. Yes it is well known that people accidentally shoot themselves every year, or are shot by a friend who was not being safe. I also have personal experience in this, as someone I know vary closely shot and killed his best friend when he was only a teen. It was a complete accident, but it still happened and that person still suffers from alcoholism to this day. However, I also know of a man who watched as his brother and son where electrocuted after there tractor puling a farm implement struck a power line, so I guess we should outlaw farm equipment, and power lines too.

Accidental injury or death is just part of life. Okay, your not going to stop it ever. It's sad, and it sucks especially when it is a child. We all see this concept of a bubble wrap society where everyone grows up never getting hurt. An example would be many schools requiring a permission slip from parents just to let there kid participate in Gym, or Recess. Again I will just make a quick list of the things we must outlaw, and forbid to protect ourselves from generalized human stupidity. We must outlaw Guns, knives, all medication, all Sports (professional, college, and minor), all martial arts practice, all martial arts forms of weapons, Cars, Motorcycles, 4 wheeler s, 3 wheeler s, and all other ATV's, bikes, skateboards, all playground equipment, all workout equipment, stairs, swimming pools, swimming in general, anything electrical, anything flammable, and finally Alcohol (just completely forget the prohibition, I'm sure it will work this time).

We must outlaw all medical procedures, Doctors, Nurses, and Hospitals as well, because there is just way too much accidental death in hospitals. Hey! My Grandma died due to a hospital not checking on her regularly. My other Grandma died in her bed due to old age, so that is something else we should outlaw. Beds, sleeping, and no one is ever allowed to age. That means get older, for you really deep liberals.

No one can ever get sick either. That causes way to much death as well.

Last but not least, everyone must constantly wear enough equipment to qualify as a race-car driver and a foot ball player at the same time, just to make sure that nothing we left out will ever hurt them, and GOD forbid (dang did it again), Mother Nature forbid anything ever kill anyone. We must all live in a perfect Utopia.

Now last but not least. This will be the hardest for you liberals, and one admitted socialist to believe. So I will give you fair warning. This is a hypothetical situation that involves the Government failing. I know, the Government never fails, and is basically (ah I caught myself that time). The Government is not mother nature though, so I'm not sure what you would consider it. They never fail, we will just leave it at that.

Anyway, on to the point. What if the World as we know it just stopped. I am referring to a terrorist attack on the Power Grid of the U.S., or any other major attack against a major target, or a natural disaster where basic Nation Wide services (of any country) just stop dead in there tracks. What do we do? Yes I know the likely hood of this happening is slim to none at best, but just a hypothetical theory. We all want to believe that the Government would come to our aid, such as National Guard, and Police, but what if they couldn't? Now as a Gun owner, I have more chance of survival than a non Gun Owner.

Why?
1.) I have Guns, so when I run out of food, and the local store does as well, I can take my shotgun and hunt rabbits. My wife knows how to cook them. I can also take my rifle and hunt deer.
2.) I can defend myself against would be looters.
3.) I know how to shoot my guns, because I practice with them.

Does it mean I'm guaranteed to survive? No! There is no guarantee of anything, but I have a larger chance.

Now I know what your thinking. This will never happen of course, and your probably right. But even if it did I would just buy guns off the street right? Wrong! If an event of this magnitude took place, money would be worthless, so not sure what your going to use as currency. Plus everyone who doesn't have a gun would be trying to get a gun. Supply and Demand would be a nightmare. And even if you managed to get a gun, if you don't believe in owning guns, then it is likely you have no idea how to use one, so your just going to be shooting air.

I know you will just accuse me of being paranoid of nothing. I assure you I do not expect anything like this to happen, but I do understand the notion that nothing is impossible. No I do not have months of food stored away. But I do live in the country, and I do have well water, so if city water failed I would not be affected at all. If Electricity fails. Well if you have a Generator the fuel in it would last for a little while assuming it is not stolen. Then you would have to resort to attempting to burn wood for cooking and staying warm.

How many of you would still be able to provide for yourself and your families if such a thing of this magnitude was to happen?

Now without a doubt all you liberals (and one admitted socialist) will accuse me of being desperate, out of arguments, stupid, pathetic, and various other names to try to insult my natural sarcasm. Amazingly enough it is quite similar to a Liberal Politician arguing with any other Politician during an election. Just call them names and insult there intelligence and they will just go away I guess.

And don't forget prejudice. Got to include that one, even if there is no evidence.

All I am doing is taking what Liberals believe in and just placing that in a spot light. That is why it is so ridiculous.

No I'm not sorry if I offended you. I'm past that point now.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I actually agree with you on that. Arguing with Liberals is like beating a dead horse.

I think I would have more luck yelling at one of the walls in my home, and getting it to move on its own.

[Oberon]